where would pac be on atg list if....

[ElTerribleMorales]

PAC the only 4-time lineal champ, beating the top man in a division to become the man... I think that speaks a lot about PAC's legacy... It's very difficult to achieve 4 lineal titles...

PAC's 4 lineal titles:
1. Beat Hatton at 140 via KO2
2. Beat JMM at 130 via SD12
3. Beat Barrera at 126 via KO11
4. Beat Sasakul at 112 via KO8

Beating the man in a division via KO's.... That's impressive...

just cause you repeat it doesn't make it any more impressive, the JMM win, many will disregard it seeing how the vast majority see JMM as the winner, bringing it down to 3, something JMM already has done, hold 3 lineal titles, 126,130,135, back to back might i add, and never truly losing any of them

Repeating it doesn't make it less impressive either. It just makes it redundant.

I think top 25 is a fair assessment, although in another 10 years we'll have hindsite. I'd say he accomplishes wins over Mosley, Mayeather and JMM he's on a few top 10's, I think Mayweather has to stay undefeated when he loses to and he wins convincinly over JMM otherwise he gets labeled as a old man beater. Sh*t he gets labeled as that now. A win over Cotto has more legacy value than a win over JMM at this point in his career.

exactly what im saying, but i repeat if you don't have Manny as #1 P4P ATG fighter, they tend to get pissy