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    Default Re: Catch Weight - Title fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
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    The option doesn't exist at Heavyweight..


    As I have explained twice already there are 43 'options' to chose from for a Hypothetical catchweight that fall within the difference between Haye's 200 and Wlad's 245.
    Pick one.

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post

    Let me get your opinion into focus, You're stating that Mosley having to shed 2-3 pounds more for Pacquiao than when he fought Margarito is going to weight drain Mosley? ah.. ok then, I get it. I think it a stretch but I get it....
    Please don't try and put anything into focus for me unless you've studied as much Anatomy and Physiology as I have... you may be punching a bit above your weight.

    It's not at all stretch, he walks around at 160+ pounds... the lower you get the more each pound counts. After a certain point every ounce you lose is fluid/glycogen stored in the blood and muscles that the body needs to have a certain level of to function correctly.

    It can take a person who hasn't been drinking enough water in their diet SIX WEEKS to become properly hydrated... these guys have 24 hours to rehydrate and they haven't just became partially dehydrated from poor water intake... they have forced it all out.

    ODLH struggled so much he had to rehydrate by injecting himself with an IV line and having fluids fed into his veins. Sound fun?

    I don't think you understand how hard it can be to loose the last couple of pounds if it's too low for you, it's completely unatural.

    You can't just keep on saying 'It's only a few more pounds' there has to be a cut off point and Roach is making out it's only a few pounds when really he's hoping that a few more pounds.

    The majority of fighters are already fighting as low as they can healthy get to in an effort to be naturally stronger than everybody else at the weight so it REALLY doesn't take much for it to be a few pounds too far.

    Why do you think that from Strawweight to Featherweight only 4... sometimes even only 3 pounds divide each weight class?

    Or let me put it like this: If they are going to be heavier on fight night anyway what motive does Roach have for asking him to weigh in at 144? If it wasn't going to affect Mosely then they wouldn't bother to ask.

    With the right people Mosely may be able to rehydrate properly... the lower he goes the harder it is and ODLH was also meant to have the right people around him... look how that turned out.
    The subject is Mosley vs Pacquiao, not Pacquiao vs ODLH. I am using that as an example for you as to how a weight drained fighter will perform... it is entirely relevant The subject is a welterweight fight with a catchweight limit. The subject is not who has more Anatomy and Physiology knowledge for that you can start another thread. No but I am backing up my statements with solid knowledge/understanding of how the body works and I don't see why I should not demonstrate this or your lack of credibilaty to you.

    147-145=2, 147-144=3. that's a few pounds. no shit It's called math. No it's called mathS... Is Mosley a welterweight or not? At the moment he is fighting as one, yes If he is a "Middleweight" you have a valid argument and Mosley shouldn't be fighting at welter should he.

    You clearly don't understand how a boxer drys up for a weigh in... Welter weights usually train down to something under 160 pounds then sweat the rest off JUST FOR THE SCALES... If he was a middle Weight he'd WALK AROUND closer to 175. When you're training down to an approximate weight in camp every pound doesn't count AS MUCH... but once you're boiling down for the weigh in EVERY pound counts.

    The catch weight will most likely be made at 144/145. Welter is 140 to 147. You wrote this how many times? I know that 145 is WITHIN the division... what is your point exactly? You don't want to focus the subject because you want to mislead the point, just own up to it you want an excuse if Pacquiao beats Mosley! Why would I want an excuse? I am completely neutral... I like both fighters equally, if Pac is going to talk about getting a welterweight title then the opponent should be allowed to fight at any weight up to and including 147... why wouldn't I want to give him credit? as long as he does it properly...
    I've made my points in bold text above ^.

    Seeing as you don't understand how weighing in a boiling down work or affect the body I'm going to simplify my point to you (as well as repeat a question you haven't answered yet...) :

    if it's 'only' 2-3 pounds and they aren't going to affect Mosely then why would the Pac camp even bother asking for it? It makes them look bad for asking, so if Mosely will be as good at 144 pounds as he is at 147 then wouldn't they just save the embarrassment and not ask?

    Again: they are asking for a catchweight because they know that Mosely will be better at 147 and worse at 144.
    Last edited by AdamGB; 06-01-2009 at 09:22 PM.

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