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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.
    No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.
    No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.
    You are correct sir.

    Boxing is bizarre

    I don't think there's any other sport where a win or a loss (big wins or big losses) can be analyzed and dissected and denigrated to such an extent as boxing. Was he shot, did he get old overnight, was he never any good. I guess its because fighters fight so rarely.

    I mean look at Jeff Lacy. I know Calzaghe fans get annoyed when people (many of whom picked Lacy) downgrade Calzaghe's win by saying Lacy was never any good but how can you look at Calzaghe-Lacy, Calzaghe-Kessler and Calzaghe-Hopkins and not think Lacy was overrated all the time? Its not so much a hit at Joe.

    That was all nonsense. I'm drinking for the first time in a few weeks and rambling.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.
    No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.
    You are correct sir.

    Boxing is bizarre

    I don't think there's any other sport where a win or a loss (big wins or big losses) can be analyzed and dissected and denigrated to such an extent as boxing. Was he shot, did he get old overnight, was he never any good. I guess its because fighters fight so rarely.

    I mean look at Jeff Lacy. I know Calzaghe fans get annoyed when people (many of whom picked Lacy) downgrade Calzaghe's win by saying Lacy was never any good but how can you look at Calzaghe-Lacy, Calzaghe-Kessler and Calzaghe-Hopkins and not think Lacy was overrated all the time? Its not so much a hit at Joe.

    That was all nonsense. I'm drinking for the first time in a few weeks and rambling.
    I think if Mosley beats Pac he should get a ton of credit. If it's at a catchweight, as it almost certainly will be, it will be Pac who will have people dismissing his victory should he prevail.

    I was going to make a joke about moderation but I decided against it.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    LOL, thanks. Yeah you're right, Floyd won't think he needs to fight Cotto to get the winner of the Pac/Shane fight in 2010.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?
    I think that's pretty much it. He looked good against Collazo and bad against Winky, but I don't take you can take much from either of those fights.

    Unlike Oscar, Shane is a full-time athlete. He's seemed very comfortable at 147 since dropping back down. Pac's speed could give him some trouble, but Pac ain't gonna spark him out like he did Hatton, and Shane is much faster than even a good version of Oscar. It's a great matchup. Neither Hatton or Oscar was able to land anything meaningful enough to check Pac's chin. I would be shocked if Mosley can't chat Pac at some point.

    Shane has never lost a fight to someone without a dominating jab. Pac has developed a pretty good one, but I'm not sure if it's good enough to disrupt Shane's rhythm enough to prevent Mosley's power and size from taking over.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?
    Google it troll

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.
    Shane needs to watch the Oscar Pac fight again and ask himself "Do I really want to leave the sport in that fashion?"

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.
    Shane needs to watch the Oscar Pac fight again and ask himself "Do I really want to leave the sport in that fashion?"
    He does. But what Mosley has in his favor is the fact he hasn't absent from the 147 division as long as Oscar was. And it's obvious Mosley can still pull the trigger

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Mosley need not worry about Mayweather, he just needs to keep doing what he does best and the big PPV will come. If Mosley gots the guts to go down to a catch weight and take a 60/40 split then surely Pacquiao would accept that, Manny would have a lot to gain. Although I like Mosley i'll have to say that he was wrong when he said his loss to Cotto could have gone either way, he lost it. I can see why Mosley is trying to speed up the process (because of his age) but he needs to make sure he doesn't go to extreme with this catch weight otherwise he's gonna end up in Pacquiao's viper pit. Another reason Mosley need not worry about Mayweather is because he may end up with a loss come July 18.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    LOL, thanks. Yeah you're right, Floyd won't think he needs to fight Cotto to get the winner of the Pac/Shane fight in 2010.
    Yea... I'm with ya on that one.... although, I agree, I wouldn't be surprised either if Mosley accepting the 60/40, I do think he cares about the money, I just think he's not being greedy given his current situation. Especially when your talking, what... a $20 (12/ Million purse split not including PPV? He's been around long enough to know that Mega's bouts are just not that easy to get.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    i know how u feel C-lo. i really wish floyd would step it up in competition a bit and take on fighters like Cotto or Mosley. i can only hope that his next fight will be against an elite welter.

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