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    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadeb_21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.
    Great point!

    Yeah I could see Floyd asking: "Who is Joshua Clottey? You mean the guy Margarito beat?"

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wadeb_21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Interesting. Thats definitely a possibility, Cotto needs to get by Clottey first and that fight isn't going to be walk in the park.
    Great point!

    Yeah I could see Floyd asking: "Who is Joshua Clottey? You mean the guy Margarito beat?"
    Speaking about Mayweather Jr (see below) Who care who beat who, Mayweather never beat Margarito, Cotto, Mosley or Clottey. Mayweather would probably say "Baldomir beat Clottey and I beat Baldomir".

    I hope Mosley/Pacquiao don't wait for PBF/JMM outcome before sealing the Deal!


    Shane Mosley Says He Deserves Pacquiao Fight | TheSweetScience.com Boxing
    Shane Mosley Says He Deserves Pacquiao Fight

    By David A. Avila
    When you conquer the king of the mountain, as Sugar Shane Mosley did a little more than four months ago, then you presume that the mountain is yours.

    The WBA welterweight king who defeated the feared former king Antonio Margarito is waiting for his coronation.

    Despite the incredible upset before more than 20,000 pro Margarito fans, Mosley may be passed over for the expected match with boxing’s best fighter Manny Pacquiao by other less-deserving fighters, including one who was retired.

    “It’s not fair,” Mosley says.

    If you know Mosley then you understand that he’s not the kind of fighter who cries and moans over bad decisions. Earlier in his career, despite advice to the contrary, he accepted fights against opponents that others ignored like Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright.

    Now, the Pomona native believes that he deserves a shot at the best fighter of all, Pacquiao.

    Talks between Mosley and Pacquiao’s camps have taken place but nothing has been agreed upon. One stipulation to make a fight between the two is Mosley dropping down in weight to 142 or 144 pounds.

    “I have to protect my fighter,” said Freddie Roach who trains and advises Pacquiao. “Shane Mosley and Manny would be the best fight for the fans. Both like to fight.”

    What Roach means is neither boxer likes to counterpunch or employs a defensive style a la Floyd Mayweather.

    Recently Mayweather un-retired and is now scheduled to fight Juan Manuel Marquez, a former Pacquiao nemesis.

    Mosley wonders why Mayweather gets all the breaks.

    “I’m tired of the public being fooled by him,” said Mosley of Mayweather, who fights Marquez on July 18 in Las Vegas. “People are accepting the games he is playing. He’s coming back because he needs the money.”

    At the press conference held to promote the Mayweather-Marquez fight, many asked why the former pound for pound king wouldn’t accept a fight with Mosley?

    Mayweather replied that he offered a fight with Mosley that was refused because of the timing. But subsequent offers have been rebuked by the Las Vegas fighter who last told Mosley during a baptismal party that he was retired and wanted to spend time with the family and had no plans to return.

    That turned out to be not true.

    When our reporters saw Mayweather sparring in the gym and sent other investigators to check out the scene, the Mayweather camp kicked out our photographer and then said rumors of Mayweather sparring were not true.

    Basically, you can’t believe a single word coming out of the Mayweather camp.

    “He wants to wait until I’m 42,” said Mosley.

    Next week Miguel Cotto fights Joshua Clottey in a match between two Top Rank fighters. It’s hoped that Cotto wins so that a match between the popular Puerto Rican boxer can be made with Pacquiao.

    It’s another thing that miffs Mosley.

    “I beat the best welterweight in our time (Margarito) and I beat him in spectacular fashion,” says Mosley, adding that Margarito crushed Cotto and the Puerto Rican beat the Pomona fighter by debatable decision. “If Cotto beats Clottey let him fight Margarito in a round robin tournament. I’m the welterweight champion.”

    That’s a good point.

    Mosley says that internationally he has a bigger name than Cotto or Mayweather.

    “People know me all over the world,” said Mosley who often travels to Asia. “Even in Singapore, Australia, all the way in India, Mali, they know me all over the world. It’s not me just saying that. They watch my fights. I’m a boxing household name in England, and the Philippines. They know what I can do, they know my work.”

    The best fight for fans in Mosley’s estimation is a showdown with boxing’s current pound for pound champion Pacquiao.

    “I always keep myself in shape,” said Mosley who is currently in Big Bear Mountain where he normally trains before fights. “I love the feeling of being in shape.”

    Mosley says he will try and see if his body can drop down to 142 or lower. No other fighter in the world piques the Pomona fighter’s interest than Pacquiao. He knows Mayweather will never fight him due to fear of losing. But Pacquiao is another story.

    “Pacquiao is a real fighter,” Mosley says. “I’m the number one welterweight.”

    It’s the fight most fans dream about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    LOL, thanks. Yeah you're right, Floyd won't think he needs to fight Cotto to get the winner of the Pac/Shane fight in 2010.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    I'm reading 144 is the target catch weight and I'm also reading the money number coming out of Pacquiao's camp as a 60/40 split. I think it's a little one sided given Mosley's stature and the fact that it's the 147 belt on the line. Unless the mythical is not really mythical anymore. I'd hope to see Mosley do a little better than that in both cases. Although 143.5 is the halfway point between 140 and 147. If I were Mosley, I'd use the 60/40 as leverage to get the catchweight to move up another pound (145). "concessions"

    GMANews.TV - Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge - Sports - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News
    I really think this fight should be at 145. Any lower would be a huge disadvantage towards Mosley and then the Pacquiao haters/discreditors would be able to dissect a Pacquiao win if he does.

    I'm not surprised if Mosley would take a 60/40 split in Pac's favor. He said he doesn't care about the money and is just looking to fight the best and give the fans a fight they want to see. This only makes me respect Mosley that much more if I already didn't have the utmost amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackRazor View Post
    Interesting. If they do fight in Oct., does this open the door for Floyd & Cotto to fight in the Fall as well & then the 2 winners meeting in a MEGA bout in 2010?
    Floyd is in no way going to seek out a fight with Cotto. If he won't fight Mosley because he has 5 losses, isn't a PPV attraction, and can only sell out the Staples Center then he can easily say something about Cotto having just lost, isn't a PPV attraction as well, and can only sell out Madison Square Garden.

    Just recently, between picking a fight with Marquez and his interview with Brian Kenny, I've gradually become less and less of a fan of Floyd's.

    Good point about what he would say about Clottey!
    LOL, thanks. Yeah you're right, Floyd won't think he needs to fight Cotto to get the winner of the Pac/Shane fight in 2010.
    Yea... I'm with ya on that one.... although, I agree, I wouldn't be surprised either if Mosley accepting the 60/40, I do think he cares about the money, I just think he's not being greedy given his current situation. Especially when your talking, what... a $20 (12/ Million purse split not including PPV? He's been around long enough to know that Mega's bouts are just not that easy to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?
    I think that's pretty much it. He looked good against Collazo and bad against Winky, but I don't take you can take much from either of those fights.

    Unlike Oscar, Shane is a full-time athlete. He's seemed very comfortable at 147 since dropping back down. Pac's speed could give him some trouble, but Pac ain't gonna spark him out like he did Hatton, and Shane is much faster than even a good version of Oscar. It's a great matchup. Neither Hatton or Oscar was able to land anything meaningful enough to check Pac's chin. I would be shocked if Mosley can't chat Pac at some point.

    Shane has never lost a fight to someone without a dominating jab. Pac has developed a pretty good one, but I'm not sure if it's good enough to disrupt Shane's rhythm enough to prevent Mosley's power and size from taking over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

    I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.
    No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Does anybody know Mosley's southpaw past opponents aside from Collazo and Winky?
    Google it troll

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    Default Re: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

    Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.
    Shane needs to watch the Oscar Pac fight again and ask himself "Do I really want to leave the sport in that fashion?"

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