I think Joe Frazier is WAAAAAAY better than Tyson...sorry Tyson fans but he never showed half the heart Frazier did!
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I think Joe Frazier is WAAAAAAY better than Tyson...sorry Tyson fans but he never showed half the heart Frazier did!
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I would personally pick Frazier to win a hard fought decision over Holyfield.
It would be one hell of a matchup.
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Interesting stuff! It's a match-up I never even thought about. I would say although Holyfield fought and beat aggressive fighters like Tyson, Frazier was like the 'Terminator' and never stopped unless you stopped him and I don't think Holyfield could have done that. 12 rounds I think Evander could pull it off if he boxed a very smart fight. 15 Rounds I think Frazier stops him late in the 14th or 15th.
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First of all i would like to say that Joe Frazier is an underrated heavyweight boxing champion, he got blasted away by George Foreman twice and this really is the only time he was convincingly beaten.
He fought Ali 3 times for 1 win and two close losses, the thriller in manilla could easily have seen Ali quit at the same time. Both guys were completely done at the fights end.
IMO Frazier would catch Evander with that famous left hook mid fight, Frazier would get inside of Holyfield something Tyson did not know how to do, Tyson was all power and he only ever had one fight strategy and that was to blast away and if he connected then well and good. Holyfield was always going to be a problem for Tyson. Smokin' Joe on the other hand was a wiley customer, bobbing and weaving, hard to hit and he would get on the inside and come up with that left hook that was one of the most devastating in boxing. Sure, you could catch Joe coming in, but would Evander have the power to stop him? I don't think so.
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Its hard to say. I dont think Joe Fraizer was at his 'best' for too long in his career so im not going to use the Ali fight as an indication of Fraizer's chances.
Holyfield had a good hustle inside and just outside at that awkward distance. And lets not forget that Fraizer for all his will, was so one handed, i think Holyfield had the right mix of guts, steele and technique to stay with Fraizer and out score him.
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Holyfield would have a chance, but recalling the Frazier that demolished Quarry, and gave Ali three servings of hell, I'd have to go with "Smoking Joe" as being more than what Holyfield could handle.
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Really tough one to call but would have been a brilliant fight.
Prime Holyfield would have stayed on the outside and boxed. He would have mixed it when he wanted too or had to. He did have a tendency to engage too much like he did with Quawi or Bowe and that may have cost him the victory in a tough points decision to a prime Frazier that beat Ali.
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If anyone goes anyone else but Frazierhe'd murder Evander!
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nice one Al. Personally would pick Joe in an easier fight than most think.
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I think outside of Evander's uppercut the only thing that would worry me about picking Joe is that he started fights slowly and this would give Evander time to win rounds, but if we're talking a 15 round fight, that's plenty of time for Joe to regain the lead.
If anyone could outwork and out hustle Evander it's Joe Frazier
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One of the hardest pickems on here in a long time.
12 rounder and Evander doesn't try to stand and bang I think he can win enough rounds to squeak out a SD. I think Evander's ability to combine great counterpunching and also good inside work could earn him an early lead that would carry him to a win. As most said already I think in a 15 rounder Joe's chopping body shots would slow down Evander and earn a UD or late stoppage.
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Personally, I don't think that Evander, even at its peak, could deal with the power and size of smoking Joe, he could perhaps make it to the final bell but I am almost certain that he wouldn't go with the win.
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I think regardless, Frazier outworks him beats him up to the body & either takes a comfortable decision or takes him out around the 11th or 12th round. I think you either had to have an anvil like punch like George Foreman (only other fighters on this level for me were Joe Louis & Earnie Shavers) or you had to be as quick as Ali to just keep hitting him & trying to get out of the way, and even Ali struggled with that against Frazier. Holyfield was neither of those two things & I think Frazier has too much for him
Joe wins this 9 out of 10 times.
Evander scores a bit more than most would believe, and would have a shot at a points race if he was still on his feet by the 15th.
Likely as not though, after 8 rounds a banged up Holyfield, just prior to pissing blood, gets put to sleet from a ferocious left.
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