People will jump through hoops to fight Oscar de la Hoya. Shane, not so much.
Who else would Floyd have fought at 154 for? Daniel Santos?
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People will jump through hoops to fight Oscar de la Hoya. Shane, not so much.
Who else would Floyd have fought at 154 for? Daniel Santos?
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On a side note, did you know DLH weghed in at 145 for the Pac fight? He couldn't been that tight at the weight if he came in 2 pounds under![]()
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Spot on. It is because ODLH is a BIG money fight. Shane isn't. In addition, although fighting at 147 may be attainable for Pac, it is not optimal, but it was worth it at the time because the fight was with Oscar. And there was no way Oscar was fighting at anything below 147.
There is also the idea of evening out the playing field. Shane has a huge advantage at 147, but at 144 the playing field is more even. However, I still wouldn't bet against Shane.
Its not only a big money fight, its a fight that creates future big money fights in that its a star maker, it gets your name out there.
some people are letting their hate for saddoboxer get in the way of logic. Mosley called out Pac (knowing they weren't going to fight at 147), not the other way around. I guess Mosley's just picking on little guys. Meh, I don't even really believe that as there are few guys in boxing I respect more than Shane but the one sidedness of this debate is annoying.
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so it's ok for Mosely to be at a disadvantage but not Pac. Yeah sounds fair.
The problem is, if he's fought at the weight before people will obviously say why not fight there again. If it was/is a problem making that weight then Pac should say so and that'll be it.
It's simple, Oscar was shot and Roach knew it or else he would have no problem with Pac fighting Shane at 147.
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This here.The thing is,Manny has already agreed and proven himself quite successful meeting Oscar who weighed 147 (well,145) and carried the weight in fine order.Yeah...Mosley put his name out there,thats what greats do in hopes of meeting one another.I think its risk/reward for Pac and he knows well that Mosley can manage the 147 and will not be a stick figure needing oxygen,so they look to get the upper advantage with guidelines of a 144 range.
For me.Look.Manny is a bonafide super star and a cash cow.Clearly the shot caller of the day and looking to be in his peak stride.The man is a terrific fighter.Other Champs will clearly be looking to get in the mix with him.People talk as if Mosley should count his blessings to be a thought on Mannys mind.Like a lifer hanging on looking to cash out his chips in one last mega fight hoorah......Honestly I think that was a better description of Oscar in that fight! I think yes....of course Mosley wants the rewards absolutely,but I also think that he want to fight the very best and anyone coming into his sector of the arena.Mosley is the undeniable established Welter here and has been knocking around big 147-154 guys over the last number of years.At the very least,its in his professional mind set to do nothing to compromise his abilities by jumping through hoops and draining down.Manny is on the rise,but hes coming into Mosleys house and division.He wanted Oscar at 147.Shane can do the same.People questioned Mosley at that weight going against Margarito combined with his age and gave him little shot.Pacs skills are on another level.Manny could come in same weight as last fight and could do very well,speed,age and momentum wise.So whats the problem?side note....Mayweather must feel like a backseat driver right about now![]()
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