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I've given examples of why the Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye fight was not great at the moment...I never said that I didn't want the fight to happen, I'm happy any time Wlad fights as I am sure the Pacquiao fans are happy when Manny fights, and the Pavlik fans and Cotto fans are happy when those guys fight.....but for the division as a whole this fight and this point in time was not going to heal the heavyweight division the way all you Haye fans think it would...even if the stars lined up right and Haye won the division would still be fucked on account of Don King and the WBA.
Ruslan Chagaev is WBA Champion (in recess), Wladimir Klitschko holds the IBF and WBO titles (and the lesser IBO title as well)...if Wladimir was to win then he would have a clear shot at Nicolay Valuev who tucked dick and ran screaming like a little girl when Wladimir's people offered him the fight. And not only would he have a shot at him, he would have a LEGITIMATE claim to the WBA belt ergo making him the holder of 3 belts and making the heavyweight division whole again (whole in that the people who wanted the WBA belt would have to actually fight someone good for a change, not in that Wlad would be the unified Champion or anything).
Had David Haye gone after the WBA belt and won it then SHIT YEAH this fight would be worth waiting for but right now Haye needs to get healthy, fight a top contender, and earn his shot.
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Lyle do you realistically feel Haye causes no threat whatsoever to Bitchsko ?
When was the last time Wlad faced anybody as fast, powerful and determined as Haye ?
leftylee when has David Haye shown that he can compete on Wladimir's level
SUUUURRRRRVEY SAYS
NEVER!!!!!!
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....those guys fought cruiserweights
Wlad KO'd Monte Barrett 9 years ago...."something Wlad can't deal with"....shiiiiiiit
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Rahman beat Lewis, Tony Thompson and Sam Peter were at least young undefeated ranked heavies, (the only comparison to Haye there is the young bit)
If Haye showed brutal power in beating Barrett then Cliff Couser must have shown, er............... even more brutaler power![]()
Come on mate... Rahman was a one punch wonder and more importantly he was young when that happened... he's way past his best. He couldn't even out hustle or out fight fat super middle weight James Toney.
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No point going on about it Lee, what Lyle doesn't understand is that Haye poses a decent threat to Clit because of his speed of movement and one-punch KO power. Lyle feels safer knowing that Clit is going to be fighting a smaller guy who is too slow to do anything other than stand in front of Clit not actually doing anything. You can't even blame Lyle or Clit. It's just what they have become accustomed too. Rahman, Thompson, Peter, Austin.
Clit fans like to retort to the 'what has David Haye ever done to deserve a shot' line which is fine until you remember who Clit has been fighting recently. Furthermore i highly doubt the Clit fans would complain about Nate Campbell getting a shot straight away at 140, or Pac getting a shot straight away at 135 and 140, or indeed any other undisputed champion moving up in weight.
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I go with LEftylee there, Haye hasn't proved nothing and got shaken up by a far lesser opponent than Wlad. Haye has a decent speed but he's sure not a speedracer for the HW division. As for his power, he has proven great things at cruiserweights but nothing so far in the HW division, beside, Wlad is more powerful than him, sharper, bigger with a much similar speed (at least, in his range). Haye brings excitement because of his brash out mouth and super aptitude to self promote and to raise up passions but in all honesty, his chances to win are from slim to very slim.
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