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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Wlad was lucky to have this happen, had the Valuev-Chagaev fight gone through his next options would have been #1 Wait for Haye to heal up (July 25th not the 11th as was first speculated) #2 Fight Alexander Dimitrenko or Eddie Chambers who were already in line and he would have to wait for that fight too as they are probably in the midst of trainign camps right now.

    The fight with Chagaev IS very relevant, it has a lot of meaning and I hope Wlad just smashes the guy and either a fight with Haye happens later this fall or Valuev later this fall and either way the heavyweight division could have exciting and meaningful fights this year!
    Agreed that Chagaev is extremely relevent, but its unlikely he takes on anyone but Povetkin in the fall IMO, as that mandatory is due in September, and him and Vitali want to hold all the belts between them.
    Are you saying that Haye will actually have to work up some sort of ranking system?
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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Wlad is such a poof being unable to accept Haye delaying. Maybe that's just me, but the guy seems like a complete poof.

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Wlad is such a poof being unable to accept Haye delaying. Maybe that's just me, but the guy seems like a complete poof.
    Wlad hasn't fought since December and he wanted to fight in February or March but of course Haye wanted to delay that with his huge win over Monte Barrett and now that the fight was set for June Haye gets "injured" and wants to fight in July.....Haye had his chance, he got "injured" and missed it, and now he's suffering the consequences.

    The thing about the Haye injury is that it hasn't been defined! It's only been called a "back injury" and Haye has said he's going to physiotherapy for it, but there is no word on if it's a muscle pull, a slipped disk, or a strain or anything else....and why not

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Im going to go against the grain here and pick Chagaev to upset Wlad. I think he will pressure Wlad and fight a very determined fight. He is well rested and should have plenty of energy for this one. Plus any undefeated fighter still has that winners mentality and a belief that nobody can beat him. I see both guys getting rocked but Wlad being too cautious and letting Chagaev off the hook. I think Wlad will be a little careless late in the fight and Chagaev will be all over him and get the stoppage around 11.
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    Smile Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    DO i think Hayes is hurt ?..NO.Do i think he should of pulled out of the fight?...YEAH..Good decision on Hayes part.I dont know why he put himself in that postion anyway..

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Wlad is such a poof being unable to accept Haye delaying. Maybe that's just me, but the guy seems like a complete poof.
    I would agree, but Haye's doctors have said he can't fight till July 25th, and German TV doesn't have that date free. I just read they're going to try and agree to fight Haye in September, so it's all gravy.

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Wlad was lucky to have this happen, had the Valuev-Chagaev fight gone through his next options would have been #1 Wait for Haye to heal up (July 25th not the 11th as was first speculated) #2 Fight Alexander Dimitrenko or Eddie Chambers who were already in line and he would have to wait for that fight too as they are probably in the midst of trainign camps right now.

    The fight with Chagaev IS very relevant, it has a lot of meaning and I hope Wlad just smashes the guy and either a fight with Haye happens later this fall or Valuev later this fall and either way the heavyweight division could have exciting and meaningful fights this year!
    Agreed that Chagaev is extremely relevent, but its unlikely he takes on anyone but Povetkin in the fall IMO, as that mandatory is due in September, and him and Vitali want to hold all the belts between them.
    Are you saying that Haye will actually have to work up some sort of ranking system?
    He may have no choice, but I don't think he'll get much credit for beating anyone in this division without a belt.

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    I don't think Chagaev can win, I'd maybe actually pick Chagaev to beat Haye but i think Haye has a far better chance of beating Wlad

    Funny for how much Haye's been ridiculed they pick the KING of the pull out to replace him.

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    haye is only reason i had any interest again in the heavys, now haye wlad fight is off i dont really care abt heavys again! understand why wlad taking the june 20th date still as it makes sense but i pretty much dont care abymore

    fk the heavyweight scene

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    Smile Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    This is the most meaningful fight right now in the heavies. Plus this is going to crown a legitimate heavyweight champion with the Ring magazine title up for grabs, for what its worth. I think it will be a boring fight with Vlad winning a decision much the way he did against Sultan. In the mean time why not have Haye vs Povetkin for a legitimate contender match?

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    Default Re: Chagaev to Replace Haye in June

    This did pan out in a pretty good match I believe.Maybe now we can do away with the WBAs 'Champion in recess' non sense one way or another.Glas Wlad moved forward.The Heavys are stagnant enough and need to sort it out.

    Stylistically,I think its Wlads to loos here.Going from Haye to Chagaev is a big jump in terms of speed and one shot power.Will most likely keep that jab on him.Chagaev is solid.Could bull is way in with Wlad lowering hands,punching down..he has a legit shot but dont think it will happen.

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