Wladimir Klitschko vs Ruslan Chagaev

[El Kabong]

Like the Ibragimov fight, right? Or any other fight since he got sparked by a pro-celebrity golfer and realised his jaw is made out of the finest crystal.

It must be true what they say about love blinding you to the deficiencies of others.

Then you must love yourself unconditionally.

How many times has it been said that AT HEAVYWEIGHT "One punch, no matter who throws it can end a fight"....Corrie Sanders wasn't in great shape but that explains his kamikaze style in that fight, he knew he had to win in the first few rounds or he wouldn't have a chance. There's no excuses for Wlad in that loss, he gave up his height and reach, left himself open and got beat, he's learned a lot from that...we've seen proof that he has, he's become a more polished fighter.

Also if you are a David Haye supporter, I wouldn't go talking about glass jaws if I was you

[JazMerkin]

Like the Ibragimov fight, right? Or any other fight since he got sparked by a pro-celebrity golfer and realised his jaw is made out of the finest crystal.

It must be true what they say about love blinding you to the deficiencies of others.

Then you must love yourself unconditionally.

How many times has it been said that AT HEAVYWEIGHT "One punch, no matter who throws it can end a fight"....Corrie Sanders wasn't in great shape but that explains his kamikaze style in that fight, he knew he had to win in the first few rounds or he wouldn't have a chance. There's no excuses for Wlad in that loss, he gave up his height and reach, left himself open and got beat, he's learned a lot from that...we've seen proof that he has, he's become a more polished fighter.

Also if you are a David Haye supporter, I wouldn't go talking about glass jaws if I was you

You know what I agree with all of that, except the last sentence. Haye's 'glass jaw' is overexaggerated. He actually took a fair bit of punishment off Carl Thompson in their fight & finished on his feet. I would say his chin is probably a bit better than Wlad's, but for me there's no question who is the bigger puncher & who is the better technically (by far).

[El Kabong]

What happened vs Mormeck? Jean ain't exactly what we would call a "power puncher" and beyond that Jean isn't a heavyweight either and therefore he's not a heavyweight power puncher like Wladimir.

And didn't Haye get wobbled a couple more times in his career by some light hitting guys??

Also David Haye has never been tagged by a heavyweight....if he's getting his first true chin check from Wladimir's right cross or left hook, I don't think it's going to go very well.

[JazMerkin]

What happened vs Mormeck? Jean ain't exactly what we would call a "power puncher" and beyond that Jean isn't a heavyweight either and therefore he's not a heavyweight power puncher like Wladimir.

And didn't Haye get wobbled a couple more times in his career by some light hitting guys??

Also David Haye has never been tagged by a heavyweight....if he's getting his first true chin check from Wladimir's right cross or left hook, I don't think it's going to go very well.

I didn't think the Mormeck one was a bad KD, he certainly recovered from it well. I'm not saying he's Marvin Hagler or George Chuvalo, but I think he's less chinny than people make out. Like I said though Wlad is the much bigger puncher, personally I think he hits harder than Vitali or any other HW since probably Tyson, however he leaves himself open to get KO'd himself when he goes for it, so is not as exciting as he could be, but if he hits almost anyone in the HW divison clean with that right cross, then they're gone IMO.

[El Kabong]

I don't think that reaction was all that great, he did eventually recover from it, but to fold up like that on a seemingly innocent looking punch....well it doesn't give me much confidence that he could even handle Wladimir's jab

[Kirkland Laing]

Like the Ibragimov fight, right? Or any other fight since he got sparked by a pro-celebrity golfer and realised his jaw is made out of the finest crystal.

It must be true what they say about love blinding you to the deficiencies of others.

Then you must love yourself unconditionally.

How many times has it been said that AT HEAVYWEIGHT "One punch, no matter who throws it can end a fight"....Corrie Sanders wasn't in great shape but that explains his kamikaze style in that fight, he knew he had to win in the first few rounds or he wouldn't have a chance. There's no excuses for Wlad in that loss, he gave up his height and reach, left himself open and got beat, he's learned a lot from that...we've seen proof that he has, he's become a more polished fighter.

Also if you are a David Haye supporter, I wouldn't go talking about glass jaws if I was you

He hasn't become a more polished fighter, he's become scared of his own shadow in the ring and terrified to throw his right hand. He's so bad to watch he can't even get on HBO anymore.

[TigerFan]

I think Chagaev will take more chances than Ibragimov did. Which is good for us (the viewers) but bad for him.

Wlad will take him out in 8-9 rounds.

[El Kabong]

He hasn't become a more polished fighter, he's become scared of his own shadow in the ring and terrified to throw his right hand. He's so bad to watch he can't even get on HBO anymore.

...odd choice of words considering what happened to your fighter.

There's only 2 ways to beat Wlad #1 Take numerous blows to the head and hope that Wlad tires out #2 Catch him with a hard power punch and be able to follow up....I SUPPOSE he could be outboxed, but we haven't seen it and it ain't like Chagaev is blowing fighters out of the water here either, he beat Ruiz and Valuev, but both those guys were still in the fight at the end.

[Rantcatrat]

This fight will be the first fight for a Saddoboxing.com title, it is that important.

Even though Chagaev isn't super fast or strong, I think he is a lot more cagey than Ibragimov. I am gonna stay optomistic about this and say it ends up being more on par with the Thompson fight which was not a bad fight.

Agreed on that one. I too will stay optimistic. Chagaev is a solid boxer and he has a few good names on his resume. He will have a similar strategy as Ibragimov because there really isn't another strategy if you are 6'1, 228. That said, he may be more of a warrior than Ibragimov and force some oppenings when Ibragimov was more content on being safe.

Totally agree. I think it could be a surprising fight. I quite like Chagaev, he has decent skills for a contemporary heavyweight. If he is anywhere near his best then I think he is capable of putting up a very decent showing.

I'm quite looking forward to it. If anything someone like Chagaev is probably more deserving of a shot at Wlad than Haye anyway. So, it has turned out pretty well IMO.

Agreed. Vlad may force the action more than in the Ibragimov fight because there are higher expectations in that the fight was Haye was expected to be exciting. Another boring fight wouldn't bear well for Vlad's reputation and even with Vlad's chin I'm not sure Chagaev has the power to scare him.