Wladimir Klitschko vs Ruslan Chagaev

[JazMerkin]

Like the Ibragimov fight, right? Or any other fight since he got sparked by a pro-celebrity golfer and realised his jaw is made out of the finest crystal.

It must be true what they say about love blinding you to the deficiencies of others.

Then you must love yourself unconditionally.

How many times has it been said that AT HEAVYWEIGHT "One punch, no matter who throws it can end a fight"....Corrie Sanders wasn't in great shape but that explains his kamikaze style in that fight, he knew he had to win in the first few rounds or he wouldn't have a chance. There's no excuses for Wlad in that loss, he gave up his height and reach, left himself open and got beat, he's learned a lot from that...we've seen proof that he has, he's become a more polished fighter.

Also if you are a David Haye supporter, I wouldn't go talking about glass jaws if I was you

You know what I agree with all of that, except the last sentence. Haye's 'glass jaw' is overexaggerated. He actually took a fair bit of punishment off Carl Thompson in their fight & finished on his feet. I would say his chin is probably a bit better than Wlad's, but for me there's no question who is the bigger puncher & who is the better technically (by far).

[El Kabong]

What happened vs Mormeck? Jean ain't exactly what we would call a "power puncher" and beyond that Jean isn't a heavyweight either and therefore he's not a heavyweight power puncher like Wladimir.

And didn't Haye get wobbled a couple more times in his career by some light hitting guys??

Also David Haye has never been tagged by a heavyweight....if he's getting his first true chin check from Wladimir's right cross or left hook, I don't think it's going to go very well.

[JazMerkin]

What happened vs Mormeck? Jean ain't exactly what we would call a "power puncher" and beyond that Jean isn't a heavyweight either and therefore he's not a heavyweight power puncher like Wladimir.

And didn't Haye get wobbled a couple more times in his career by some light hitting guys??

Also David Haye has never been tagged by a heavyweight....if he's getting his first true chin check from Wladimir's right cross or left hook, I don't think it's going to go very well.

I didn't think the Mormeck one was a bad KD, he certainly recovered from it well. I'm not saying he's Marvin Hagler or George Chuvalo, but I think he's less chinny than people make out. Like I said though Wlad is the much bigger puncher, personally I think he hits harder than Vitali or any other HW since probably Tyson, however he leaves himself open to get KO'd himself when he goes for it, so is not as exciting as he could be, but if he hits almost anyone in the HW divison clean with that right cross, then they're gone IMO.

[El Kabong]

I don't think that reaction was all that great, he did eventually recover from it, but to fold up like that on a seemingly innocent looking punch....well it doesn't give me much confidence that he could even handle Wladimir's jab