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B hop would beat Froch hands down and I dont deny that fact, Froch-Pavlik is a totally different fight to the Hopkins one because anything could happen in any round. Pavlik or Froch could pull a knockout, or Carl Froch in the later rounds can change his game plan and try and box like he did against Pascal, I think Pavlik would struggle with that change of pace. Kessler is too overrated hes not done anything since a losing fight to JC, whats he done since ? Carls fought and beaten a better fighter in JT and Kessler hasnt done anything. Bute-Froch would be a tough fight for Carl I dont deny that fact, but Carl would be the hardest fight to date for Bute and I think Carl could stop him late in an exciting fight. As for Andrade, are you serious? Andrade wouldnt take Carl in the later rounds, it would be an exciting fight of who has the better chins, and I think Carl is technically better than Andrade and he would win a UD.
I was using Hopkins as an example with heart as big as Froch's who Pavlik had fought. If Pavlik could twice cope with Taylor who is an immeasurably better boxer, I think he could deal with Froch trying to box. Froch seems to think he is Tommy Hearns, where in reality his handspeed is average & his footwork is abysmal. Fine, Kessler's inactivity is an issue, but if Kessler looks even half the fighter he was before Calzaghe, then I think he dispatches Froch. Bute is a fast, powerful boxer & would do what Taylor did, but would actually finish Froch. I think Andrade was a tougher fight for him because he took everything Bute had & then had him finished at the end. Froch's chin is simply not as good as Andrade's, who may have the best chin in modern boxing. This is clear from the fact that Taylor dropped Froch & had him on queer street, and if he could finish a fight it would be all over. Also pre-fight Froch was taking the piss out of Taylor's power, saying he couldn't drop light-middleweights so he would be no problem for him & if he had such a great chin this would be true. In the meantime Andrade has only been dropped by an absolute bomb from Yusaf Mack, which he got right back up from. Froch is a better boxer, but his chin is just not on the level & his boxing is nowhere near the same level as Bute or Kessler. Like I said, Pavlik is the best option for him, as they are similarly one dimensional.
First of all you saying Carl Froch has awful footwork is the biggest load of bull ever, Carls footwork is what makes him such an awkward fighter to handle in the ring. He knows his range and from that he uses his footwork to get out of danger and implement aggresive forward pressure fighting, what he does best. So you saying he hasnt got good footwork isnt right IMO, I think its one of his most useful assets in a fight. As for the Taylor fight, how many world champions in their first defence travel to the USA against arguably one of their best prospects to date in their backyard? Carl was an underdog in the fight and the US audience didnt give him a chance against JT, he weatherd the storm and came back when he was behind on the judges scorecards to stop JT which was a great achievement. I feel that Carl hasnt been given enough respect in that department, because after the 6th round in the fight I feel he really did start to push Taylor back and because of that the knockout by the 12th was inevitable. It's your opionion on Bute, but we would have to see, I think the fight needs to happen to clarify who is the best at 168, and for Kessler if he gets rid of his shit promotion team I hope to god we see him involved in the 168 mix. As for Andrade it would be an exciting fight, but with the experience Carl has gained in the last year I think he would be able to handle him, it would be good to watch, but carl wouldnt lose to Andrade mark my words on that