they robbed clottey

[Majesty]

thats it...

116-111 pretty much means Cotto didn't even need the last rounds to win the fight. Pretty much in the bag even if Clottey had finished strong.

i don't agree with the 116-111 at all, but a 114-113 win for Cotto is definately not out of the question

No it isn't but look at it this way

if Clottey had won the last 2 rounds still.

It would have been a draw. It would have been even on one, Clottey on the other, Cotto on the third.

So Regardless of what happened by the end of the 10th a round which Clottey won Cotto already had a draw in the bag and THAT is BS. S o you can't say Clottey robbed himself, there was no way for him to win without KOing Cotto

[OumaFan]

116-111 pretty much means Cotto didn't even need the last rounds to win the fight. Pretty much in the bag even if Clottey had finished strong.

i don't agree with the 116-111 at all, but a 114-113 win for Cotto is definately not out of the question

No it isn't but look at it this way

if Clottey had won the last 2 rounds still.

It would have been a draw. It would have been even on one, Clottey on the other, Cotto on the third.

So Regardless of what happened by the end of the 10th a round which Clottey won Cotto already had a draw in the bag and THAT is BS. S o you can't say Clottey robbed himself, there was no way for him to win without KOing Cotto

of course it is (try all you can and you won't find anybody who buys 116-111) but since you're a Clottey fan what was he doing in the 10-12? Wasn't everything in his favor going into that? Why did he go into cruise control, stop throwing the right so much? Dude's bizarre, its like he's got a mental block.

The guy had everything in his favor. Not only is he arguably just a better fighter than Cotto he had a guy who had trouble seeing right hands and he's got a great, fast right hand.

[Majesty]

i don't agree with the 116-111 at all, but a 114-113 win for Cotto is definately not out of the question

No it isn't but look at it this way

if Clottey had won the last 2 rounds still.

It would have been a draw. It would have been even on one, Clottey on the other, Cotto on the third.

So Regardless of what happened by the end of the 10th a round which Clottey won Cotto already had a draw in the bag and THAT is BS. S o you can't say Clottey robbed himself, there was no way for him to win without KOing Cotto

of course it is (try all you can and you won't find anybody who buys 116-111) but since you're a Clottey fan what was he doing in the 10-12? Wasn't everything in his favor going into that? Why did he go into cruise control, stop throwing the right so much? Dude's bizarre, its like he's got a mental block.

The guy had everything in his favor. Not only is he arguably just a better fighter than Cotto he had a guy who had trouble seeing right hands and he's got a great, fast right hand.

Clottey won the 10th, Cotto only landed one left hook at the end of that round but was beaten the rest of it, after that Cotto was boxing and backing away. And like I said by the 10th which Clottey won, he was getting a draw regardless. The fact that by the 9th round he was so far behind on the scorecards he needed a knockout to win is just plain bullshit

[rowlesy]

There have been far worse cases of robbery than this one.

I had it 114-113 Cotto. Clottey just stopped working in the last three rounds, dunno if it was complacency, fatigue or a mixture of the two, but if you've just beaten the living crap out of your opponent in the previous two rounds by using stiff jabs and following it up with hooks and uppercuts why do you suddenly stop doing those things? And I also didn't like his football-esque dive in the fifth and him trying to get points deducted off Cotto in the last.

I have a new found respect for Cotto, never used to like the guy for some reason but he manned up tonight and all credit to him. Clottey lost the fight all by himself.

[toogood4u]

close fight but 116-111 is very suspicious

and freakin that time it took for the cards to be annouced is always such a bad idea, it always happens when theres a close fight.

plus pr day tomorrow and top rank promotions comon dude the fight was so rigged the only way josh could have won was by a clear KO

its almost like cotto only need to do half of what clottey does to win a round

[Cortez The Killer]

Cotto is marketable. Cotto has a strong fan base. More people want to see Cotto fight than see Clottey fight. Cotto generates more money than Clottey. Cotto has a more pleasing style than Clottey. Cotto makes more exciting fights than Clottey. So one score card was off. Thats why.

The other two cards were legitimate.



Clottey isnt stupid. Or maybe he is. He admitted how difficult it would be a to win a decision in MSG but still took off the final, most important rounds of the fight then tried to pull some whining that made him look bad in front of everyone. Its not Cottos fault he won, it's Clotteys fault Cotto won.

Cotto looked a hell of a lot more gassed to me and he kept throwing punches. Couldnt Clottey tough it out and let his hands go a bit? Thats his own fault!

[Majesty]

Cotto is marketable. Cotto has a strong fan base. More people want to see Cotto fight than see Clottey fight. Cotto generates more money than Clottey. Cotto has a more pleasing style than Clottey. Cotto makes more exciting fights than Clottey. So one score card was off. Thats why.

The other two cards were legitimate.



Clottey isnt stupid. Or maybe he is. He admitted how difficult it would be a to win a decision in MSG but still took off the final, most important rounds of the fight then tried to pull some whining that made him look bad in front of everyone. Its not Cottos fault he won, it's Clotteys fault Cotto won.

Cotto looked a hell of a lot more gassed to me and he kept throwing punches. Couldnt Clottey tough it out and let his hands go a bit? Thats his own fault!

You realize that even if Clottey had won the 11, and the 12th rounds he was getting a draw? He won the 10th and that ensured a draw if he won the last 2.

I think it was obvious how dominant he was by the time the 9th round rolled around. But on the scorecards he was already far enough behind that he wasn't getting a decision, only a draw at most.

So you can't say "Its Cllottey's own fault" when even if he'd finished strong the most he'd have gotten was a draw The fact that by the end of the 9th Cotto was so far ahead that Clottey needed a knockout to win. You can't blame that on Clottey

[Cortez The Killer]

Cotto is marketable. Cotto has a strong fan base. More people want to see Cotto fight than see Clottey fight. Cotto generates more money than Clottey. Cotto has a more pleasing style than Clottey. Cotto makes more exciting fights than Clottey. So one score card was off. Thats why.

The other two cards were legitimate.



Clottey isnt stupid. Or maybe he is. He admitted how difficult it would be a to win a decision in MSG but still took off the final, most important rounds of the fight then tried to pull some whining that made him look bad in front of everyone. Its not Cottos fault he won, it's Clotteys fault Cotto won.

Cotto looked a hell of a lot more gassed to me and he kept throwing punches. Couldnt Clottey tough it out and let his hands go a bit? Thats his own fault!

You realize that even if Clottey had won the 11, and the 12th rounds he was getting a draw? He won the 10th and that ensured a draw if he won the last 2.

I think it was obvious how dominant he was by the time the 9th round rolled around. But on the scorecards he was already far enough behind that he wasn't getting a decision, only a draw at most.

So you can't say "Its Cllottey's own fault" when even if he'd finished strong the most he'd have gotten was a draw The fact that by the end of the 9th Cotto was so far ahead that Clottey needed a knockout to win. You can't blame that on Clottey

Im not even arguing about the 116-111 card. But he knew the situation. He could have acted in a way which could not have been denied. Instead he turned in these relaxed, ambiguous rounds that of course are going to Cotto for the reasons I mentioned.

I dont understand it. Maybe Clottey likes to feel like the world is going against him. In the fight thread someone even posted the fight must be fixed cause Clottey would just let Cotto off the hook when it looked like he could do damage. The way Clottey fought at times, I dont know if he even wanted it.

[Majesty]

Cotto is marketable. Cotto has a strong fan base. More people want to see Cotto fight than see Clottey fight. Cotto generates more money than Clottey. Cotto has a more pleasing style than Clottey. Cotto makes more exciting fights than Clottey. So one score card was off. Thats why.

The other two cards were legitimate.



Clottey isnt stupid. Or maybe he is. He admitted how difficult it would be a to win a decision in MSG but still took off the final, most important rounds of the fight then tried to pull some whining that made him look bad in front of everyone. Its not Cottos fault he won, it's Clotteys fault Cotto won.

Cotto looked a hell of a lot more gassed to me and he kept throwing punches. Couldnt Clottey tough it out and let his hands go a bit? Thats his own fault!

You realize that even if Clottey had won the 11, and the 12th rounds he was getting a draw? He won the 10th and that ensured a draw if he won the last 2.

I think it was obvious how dominant he was by the time the 9th round rolled around. But on the scorecards he was already far enough behind that he wasn't getting a decision, only a draw at most.

So you can't say "Its Cllottey's own fault" when even if he'd finished strong the most he'd have gotten was a draw The fact that by the end of the 9th Cotto was so far ahead that Clottey needed a knockout to win. You can't blame that on Clottey

Im not even arguing about the 116-111 card. But he knew the situation. He could have acted in a way which could not have been denied. Instead he turned in these relaxed, ambiguous rounds that of course are going to Cotto for the reasons I mentioned.

I dont understand it. Maybe Clottey likes to feel like the world is going against him. In the fight thread someone even posted the fight must be fixed cause Clottey would just let Cotto off the hook when it looked like he could do damage. The way Clottey fought at times, I dont know if he even wanted it.

What I'm saying is it isnt worth complaining that Clottey didn't do enough late when by the end of the 9th round he was already so far behind on the scorecards he needed a knockout to win. And thats something you can't blame Clottey for. He wasn't getting a decision anyway