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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    thats it...
    no robbery dude it was a close fight, i had Cotto winning 114-113, IMO without the cut it would have been a completely different fight, rematch wouldn't be out of the question, good fight though

    Exactly. The cut changed the whole complexion of the fight.
    Without it there would have been far less running from Cotto, who simply couldn't see the punches coming.

    Cotto edged it, Clottey gave it away when he should have been trying to dominate the end. He didn't do enough.
    And Clottey getting thrown down and hurting his knee didn't change anything
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    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

    Clottey isn't a footwork fighter no, but he throws a great left hook and a good jab, without your left leg to plant that they aren't gonna be very effective.

    Notice how Clottey's left hook and jab disappeared after he was thrown down?
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    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

    Clottey isn't a footwork fighter no, but he throws a great left hook and a good jab, without your left leg to plant that they aren't gonna be very effective.

    Notice how Clottey's left hook and jab disappeared after he was thrown down?
    I noticed more the right hand missing. Everything was missing. Clottey not saying anything about it is pretty much open and shut, dude's like Marlon Wayans in I'm gonna get you Sucka when he gets the splinter, he's a bit dramatic about injuries.

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    Or Damon Wayans, I can't be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
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    Not nearly as much. The only round that it looked maybe it had an effect was the sixth (and who knows what's going through Clottey's head, he's a strange dude) and like they said Clottey's not a footwork fighter. On the other hand Cotto seemed to clearly have a problem seeing the right for about ten rounds.

    Clottey isn't a footwork fighter no, but he throws a great left hook and a good jab, without your left leg to plant that they aren't gonna be very effective.

    Notice how Clottey's left hook and jab disappeared after he was thrown down?
    I noticed more the right hand missing. Everything was missing. Clottey not saying anything about it is pretty much open and shut, dude's like Marlon Wayans in I'm gonna get you Sucka when he gets the splinter, he's a bit dramatic about injuries.

    yeah the right hand was missing, he wasn't setting it up with anything. like I Said his left hook and jab disappeared after getting thrown down.


    All this can be settled if they had a rematch.

    But I've just thought of a perfect fight for 147 now.

    How about Clottey vs Collazo? Both of these guys feel like the bad luck fighters of the division so why not fight each other? Winner fights Berto.
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    I think Clottey should go for Margarito if he can get there before Cotto. I think he takes him out this time. Otherwise, it might be an idea to move up the Light-Middle, where he'd be probably go to being the 2nd best guy in the division, maybe the best if PW goes to 160

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    Clottey had some problems slipping as well. There were several points in the fight were I felt he was going to get off and land well on Cotto but a slip would interrupt his flow.

    I felt he should have been able to stop Cotto because of the cut, but he didn't press like Margarito did. To Cotto's credit he did seem a little more composed when running which probably helped his stamina in the late rounds.

    I would love to see a rematch.

    A fight with Pac would be interesting. I think Pac is too fast for Cotto, but I think Cotto's size would earn him the role as the aggressor, which is how he fights best. So it would be a tough fight to call.

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    It was a great fight and honestly could have gone either way but I felt Cotto shaded it.

    I think Kellerman summed it up perfectly when he said Clottey was the better fighter, Cotto the better man.

    For me it was Cotto who displayed the heart of a champion, coming back from adversity without complaint, and winning the championship rounds, or the 12th at least, and getting the decisive knockdown.

    Clottey for all his talent for me doesn't have a champions heart. He gave a performance Christiano Ronaldo would have been proud of when he fell and hurt his knee and then rather pathetically tried to get a point deduction from Cotto claiming a back of the head injury in the final round.

    Cotto could have pulled out after 5 or 6 rounds and won on points due to the accidental cut but instead he displayed a champion's courage and won the fight over 12 rounds.

    I have no doubt had the roles been reversed Clottey would have been out of there in 6 and got a technical win, he just seems to exaggerate all his injuries and injustices and in such situations, when a fight is has close as this I'd always hope they give it to the fighter who fought like a real man, which was Cotto tonight.

    It was similar in a way to the Winky Taylor fight, Clottey like Wright had the fight going into the 12th but with victory within his grasp he took his foot off the pedal and didn't give his all. He can moan and bitch but ultimately the loss was his own doing.

    I do agree that 116-111 was far too wide though, only a point or 2 either way in this one.

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    What Bilbo said

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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    What Bilbo said
    Ditto.

    It was a close fight that could've gone to either fighter, but Cotto edged it (by one round) by being the better fighter in the championship rounds.

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    I realize that even if Clottey won the championship rounds he would have still lost by the judges scoring, but as fans we always keep our own scorecards.

    If he (clottey) fought harder those two rounds I think he would have clearly won. It was a close fight and could have gone either way the way I saw it. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow and score it.

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    I haven't seen the fight yet, I just saw the ESPN highlight which wasn't much. When I watch it without sound or disturbance, I will post my scoring on this thread. Sure I am a Cotto fan, but I will put that aside and be as honest as I can with the way I think the fight went.....I am very interested in watching the fight too, but I was on vacation for the weekend

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    Default Re: they robbed clottey

    What SD isn't?

    Clottey had it and he let it go, he's got no one to blame more than himself. He should have bought some insurance...

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    Big props to the referee. We need more no nonsense guy like him.

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