Nonito Donaire Jr. is now Ring Mag's #7 P4P Boxer

[Rantcatrat]

Why wouldn't he be, IMO he is one of the best fighters in world, and he has it all, great boxing skills, power, and speed. He is truly a great fighter. I don't see why Vic is ahead of Cotto though he is nothing special IMO.

What? Totally disagree. He beats everyone. He was the underdog in his last two fights and beat down p4p Mijares and pummelled Arce into a pulp. During that time span, who has Donaire beat? If he beats King Kong, he should jump above Donaire.

[Quinito]

Forget about Vic's accomplishments. The fact that matters most is DONAIRE BEATS DARCHINYAN ANYTIME IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS.

[Pugilistic]

Forget about Vic's accomplishments. The fact that matters most is DONAIRE BEATS DARCHINYAN ANYTIME IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS.

If they rematch in the future yeah but it hasn't happened yet so Vic should be ranked higher than Donaire currently.

[Quinito]

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

[bzkfn]

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Why? Vic has gone on to achieve more. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Donaire fan, but I don't think his achievements since his win over Vic warrant a higher place in the P4P, when Vic moved up in weight and unified the belts with impressive victories. Your logic, once again, suggests that we should discount Pacquiao's achievements since his losses, and that Medgoen Singsurat should be ranked above him until Pac avenges the loss.

[Pugilistic]

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Why? Vic has gone on to achieve more. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Donaire fan, but I don't think his achievements since his win over Vic warrant a higher place in the P4P, when Vic moved up in weight and unified the belts with impressive victories. Your logic, once again, suggests that we should discount Pacquiao's achievements since his losses, and that Medgoen Singsurat should be ranked above him until Pac avenges the loss.

I couldn't of said it any better myself.

[Mar]

Vic deserves his spot, he's lost once yes but since has just about destroyed everyone he faced when most said he wouldn't even win. Williams should be on this list too. Since he could beat damn near everyone on this list twice. Hell and he could almost make the weight of eveyone one the list to prove it. Like it or not cotto's last fight was great to some and a robbery to others him loosing to margo (in question), fighting jennings, and a controversal (to some) win against clottey isn't exactly gonna light up the pfp list. If anyone should be dropped down or off it's hopkins, i like the guy but out of his last six fights he's lost three. Fight dawson or get off the pfp pot.

[DaxxKahn]

I think it is rightfully deserved, I have been on a high opinion of this kid long before he ever beat Vic, he is a complete package, he boxes, he has power, he is fast he has a solid chin.

Hard to argue with his in ring results as well...If he was a few weight classes heavier he would be a big star

[Kev]

I'm atually really suprised Donaire is so high in all honesty. His only win of note was his suprise ko of Darchinyan. Since then what has he done? He beat Maldonado but less impressively than Montiel did, and he's fought a couple of top 10 guys on little note.

He's only in the top 10 because Darchinyan has gone on to win more titles and at a higher weight, his own resume certainly doesn't warrent top 7 p4p status, not even close.

His inclusion is even worse than Christian Mijares and we all know how that went.

Seriously Juan Guzman, David Haye, Kelly Pavlik, Arthur Abraham, Tim Bradley, Shane Mosely, Chad Dawson, Thomas Adamek, they have all done as much if not more than Nonito Donaire.

It's the little guy positive discrimination at work again. These small guys fight in divisions that have literally (check boxrec) about half sometimes only a third of the competition that is to be found at the higher weights and yet people talk about their silky skills and boxing prowess elavating them far above what they really are.

Let's see Donaire actually fight and beat somebody first before he gets put as high as top 7 p4p.

I can't remember any other fighter getting rated so high for achieving so little. When he beat Darchinyan Vic wasn't even in the top 10 p4p and he's beaten no one of real significance since so why so high?

He's there because of what Vic has done since in beating Arce and especially Mijares.

The ring (and most on here) elevated Mijares well above his actual ability and when Darchinyan demolished him they have now elevated Donaire based on those results.

It's a farce in all honesty. It could have just been a bad night for Vic when he got stopped, lets see Donaire beat Montiel or Vic in a rematch before we all state he's one of the absolute world's best.

I'd rate Juan Guzman well above him.

[Quinito]

Darchinyan should be chasing the man who humiliated and made him bleed for the first time.

[ElTerribleMorales]

aside from Darchinyan who has Donaire beaten to deserve the #10 spot, much less the #7 spot, IMO the Ring's P4P list has become a joke, Marquez finally fought and it was against a bum, Izzy hasn't fought in over a year yet both are ranked above Cotto , i say that their rankings are ok up til Mosley, after that it's pretty much just a mess, and yea Darchinyan should be ranked above Donaire, since his loss to Donaire he went up in weight and beat Mijares to become the Undisputed Champion in his weight class, then blew Arce away, what has Donaire done, and against who?

[Kev]

aside from Darchinyan who has Donaire beaten to deserve the #10 spot, much less the #7 spot, IMO the Ring's P4P list has become a joke, Marquez finally fought and it was against a bum, Izzy hasn't fought in over a year yet both are ranked above Cotto , i say that their rankings are ok up til Mosley, after that it's pretty much just a mess, and yea Darchinyan should be ranked above Donaire, since his loss to Donaire he went up in weight and beat Mijares to become the Undisputed Champion in his weight class, then blew Arce away, what has Donaire done, and against who?

I like your thinking Elterrible. Darchinyan aside Donaire has fought literally nobody, he has the worst record of any top 10 p4p ranked fighter probably in the last 5 years, certainly top 7.

One win against a world champion, never even fought a single other world champ current or former, never fought a p4p star (Vic wasn't near the p4p when Donaire beat him) yet he's considered better than 3 time world champ Paul Williams who has beaten 4 reigning world champs I think 5 in all, at 3 different weights or Chad Dawson who has 3 wins over former unisputed and p4p stars plus a win over the two time and current cruiserweight Ring champ, not to mention he's still undefeated.

His resume sucks, the ONLY reason he is in the top 10 is because Darchinyan beat Arce and Mijares. If he hadn't Donaire wouldn't be in the top 10 its a undisputable fact.

So he's been prmoted to 7th on the rankings based soley on what ANOTHER fighter has achieved AFTER he fought him?

[kingfrnk]

aside from Darchinyan who has Donaire beaten to deserve the #10 spot, much less the #7 spot, IMO the Ring's P4P list has become a joke, Marquez finally fought and it was against a bum, Izzy hasn't fought in over a year yet both are ranked above Cotto , i say that their rankings are ok up til Mosley, after that it's pretty much just a mess, and yea Darchinyan should be ranked above Donaire, since his loss to Donaire he went up in weight and beat Mijares to become the Undisputed Champion in his weight class, then blew Arce away, what has Donaire done, and against who?

agree with every word of this post ^^

[mad_takamura]

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Why? Vic has gone on to achieve more. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Donaire fan, but I don't think his achievements since his win over Vic warrant a higher place in the P4P, when Vic moved up in weight and unified the belts with impressive victories. Your logic, once again, suggests that we should discount Pacquiao's achievements since his losses, and that Medgoen Singsurat should be ranked above him until Pac avenges the loss.

bzkfn, your opinion on this is quite puzzling. why would you compare medgeon-pac to a donaire darch scenario, when darch is waaaay ahead of medgeon in terms of greatness?
quite frankly, darch avoided nonito. the fact that he avoided him proves nonito is the real deal, and everyone on the ring mag acknowledges this. how a fighter is avoided by the elite should be one of the criterias on how a selection is made for inclusion to the list. i guess that's one of their criterias, really. darch could really have achieved more imo,if he accepted an immediate rematch from nonito. wanna know when that challenge happened for the first time? after darch fully recovered being wasted on their fight, getting up from his corner, while the media have to force vic for an interview right there and then inside the mat, which vic was reluctant to because of the shock and shame he obsorbed (with the thrash talk and cockiness during and before the fight). did he really achieved more? he run from his greatest fear. you can make an argument that nonito could have achieved more only if arce, hussein, mijares and montiel accepted his offer for a fight, which they did'nt. and that's a fact.
my question for you bzkfn,in terms of courage who do you rate more? nonito or vic?

[mad_takamura]

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Why? Vic has gone on to achieve more. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Donaire fan, but I don't think his achievements since his win over Vic warrant a higher place in the P4P, when Vic moved up in weight and unified the belts with impressive victories. Your logic, once again, suggests that we should discount Pacquiao's achievements since his losses, and that Medgoen Singsurat should be ranked above him until Pac avenges the loss.

bzkfn, your opinion on this is quite puzzling. why would you compare medgeon-pac to a donaire darch scenario, when darch is waaaay ahead of medgeon in terms of greatness?
quite frankly, darch avoided nonito. the fact that he avoided him proves nonito is the real deal, and everyone on the ring mag acknowledges this. how a fighter is avoided by the elite should be one of the criterias on how a selection is made for inclusion to the list. i guess that's one of their criterias, really. darch could really have achieved more imo,if he accepted an immediate rematch from nonito. wanna know when that challenge happened for the first time? after darch fully recovered being wasted on their fight, getting up from his corner, while the media have to force vic for an interview right there and then inside the mat, which vic was reluctant to because of the shock and shame he obsorbed (with the thrash talk and cockiness during and before the fight). did he really achieved more? he run from his greatest fear. you can make an argument that nonito could have achieved more only if arce, hussein, mijares and montiel accepted his offer for a fight, which they did'nt. that's a fact.
my question or you bzkfn,in terms of courage who do you rate more? nonito or vic?

and yep btw, vic said "no" right there and then in front of the cameras. achieving more is'nt really reflected by how good the quality of opposition you defeated on your career, but facing your thoughest opponents instanly upon their challenge. bravery is noted while cowardice is abhorred isn't it? ring mag have seen it, i guess.