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    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.

    These 2 names would of been better wins for him because he wasn't impressive, in the Bernard Hopkins fight. And even fans that don't really follow the sport knew Roy Jones Jr was finished as a top fighter.

    And he would of probably looked better in fights with Chad Dawson, Kelly Pavlik, but oh well its too late now.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    He probably would've got more credit for those fights too. Pavlik was still unbeaten of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
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    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    He probably would've got more credit for those fights too. Pavlik was still unbeaten of course
    Yea thats what i think aswell, beating Kelly Pavlik now won't mean as much anymore, and even Frank Warren said he would of set up the Kelly Pavlik fight.

    Because Kelly Pavlik had a big following and Joe Calzaghe, would of looked impressive because Kelly Pavlik's. Style is made for Joe Calzaghe.

    And like i said Chad Dawson i don't think would of had the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe, yes people will comeback and say Chad Dawson wasn't that well known which is probably true.

    But hardcore fans would of gave Joe Calzaghe alot of credit, because unlike Jeff Lacy. Chad Dawson had proven himself against elite fighters.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    He probably would've got more credit for those fights too. Pavlik was still unbeaten of course
    Yea thats what i think aswell, beating Kelly Pavlik now won't mean as much anymore, and even Frank Warren said he would of set up the Kelly Pavlik fight.

    Because Kelly Pavlik had a big following and Joe Calzaghe, would of looked impressive because Kelly Pavlik's. Style is made for Joe Calzaghe.

    And like i said Chad Dawson i don't think would of had the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe, yes people will comeback and say Chad Dawson wasn't that well known which is probably true.

    But hardcore fans would of gave Joe Calzaghe alot of credit, because unlike Jeff Lacy. Chad Dawson had proven himself against elite fighters.
    It must be true if Warren said it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    I agree with all that.

    Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    I agree with all that.

    Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.
    I duno to have all time great names like Jones and Hopkins on a resume is more impressive than Chad and Pav. Especially after Hopkins beat Pavlik.

    Joe considered himself from that era not this new era so he beat evry guy he needed to . If he started fighting every young challenger out there he would never get out the game

    I wanted to see 1 more but he made the right decision and retired after his best display. He defo wont comeback for Froch.

    Im going to see Calzaghe next week. Legend !

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    If Calzaghe had fought Pavlik instead of Hopkins.After Calzaghe had outboxed him to claim a UD people would of just said what they did against Lacy that he was overrated,and Pavlik stepped up.

    Calzaghe will never get the respect he deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    If Calzaghe had fought Pavlik instead of Hopkins.After Calzaghe had outboxed him to claim a UD people would of just said what they did against Lacy that he was overrated,and Pavlik stepped up.

    Calzaghe will never get the respect he deserves.
    Exactly, it doesn't matter who Super Joe Calzaghe faces he won't ever get any respect, especially here in the States, but I do no he was a great fight an All-Time Great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    I agree with all that.

    Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.
    Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    If i was Joe Calzaghe i would of fought Kelly Pavlik instead of Bernard Hopkins, and Chad Dawson instead of Roy Jones Jr.

    Kelly Pavlik is one dimensional and would of probably, been outboxed clearly over 12 rounds.

    And Chad Dawson wouldn't have been ready for someone like Joe Calzaghe, he takes too many rounds off and he still hasn't got the experience. To deal with Joe Calzaghe's workrate.
    I agree with all that.

    Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.
    Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....
    The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too. All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
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    I agree with all that.

    Finishing off with a really old Hopkins and a way past it Jones Jr just left me feeling that Joe was cashing out too easily. I would really have liked a final fight against someone young just to hammer home a point about how good he was. Nobody was impressed when the Jones fight was signed really.
    Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....
    The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.
    How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
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    Hopkins schooled Pavlik to pieces though remember. JC for me deserves top credit for beatin Hopkins. Hopkins is still an elite fighter no doubt. I think he would have hammered Dawson too, just like he beat Lacy.....
    The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.
    How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.
    Everyone at my gym, and tbh most of the posters that I have seen comment on it on here. I wasn't around at the time of the fight, but those I've seen mention it have generally said they feel Calzaghe lost, or they display they are big Joe fans by going on about 'Hopkins cheating, being boring etc etc', which for me is immaterial for how I score a fight

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    16 mill. Ha ha yea right joe. Get the fuck outta here.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    The problem is almost all people I know who're not big Calzaghe fans feel he lost that fight, and despite him being one of my favourites I felt he did too All that fight did was convince people that if an old Hopkins could do that, imagine what Hopkins from about 2001-2004 could have done. Joe would of schooled Pavlik like he did Lacy though, but no way does he beat Dawson like Lacy. Lacy's weaknesses were apparent to everyone not desperate for some kind of Tyson reincarnation, the best he'd beaten was Robin Reid. Whereas Dawson has beaten Adamek & Glen Johnson at the point that fight could have been made. Whilst I think Joe would have beaten him, no way is it like Lacy.
    How many people are you talking about? I think only a minority think Hopkins won that fight. Polls on here and many other sites all strongly favoured Calzaghe.. ESPECIALLY at the time of the fight.
    Everyone at my gym, and tbh most of the posters that I have seen comment on it on here. I wasn't around at the time of the fight, but those I've seen mention it have generally said they feel Calzaghe lost, or they display they are big Joe fans by going on about 'Hopkins cheating, being boring etc etc', which for me is immaterial for how I score a fight
    Nah.. there's no way MOST on here think Calzaghe lost. The Calzaghe haters turn up in any thread about him, so that's probably what makes it look like what it's not.

    There's a poll on here, if i can find it
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    Default Re: Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

    Calzaghes record is deceiving in my opinion. Great record, defences, etc. Very good career, not as great though as many think. I cant see him coming back now. I do think he wasted some years, but his career still ran its course. Is he a fighter that should et paid 16 mil for a fight? Absolutely not. Hes not a legend, and most logical people that know what a truly great fighter is are not in not awe of him when he fights. Hes a very good fighter, but probably not even a top 100 atg imo.
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