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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    CHF. I was just replying on a portion of hattonhammer's post. My blackberry wont make 'qoute and reply'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    CHF. I was just replying on a portion of hattonhammer's post. My blackberry wont make 'qoute and reply'.
    Fair enough. It just didn't make much sense as it was and I was curious why you posted it.

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    Going to get off topic so please excuse me for a sec while i post. The heavyweights when it comes to pound for pound get fucked. The only heavy that gets credit is Ali and that is it people give Lopez all this credit but tell you truth i would rate Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes above him. I mean Lopez record is about the same as Rocky's so undefeated ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Going to get off topic so please excuse me for a sec while i post. The heavyweights when it comes to pound for pound get fucked. The only heavy that gets credit is Ali and that is it people give Lopez all this credit but tell you truth i would rate Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes above him. I mean Lopez record is about the same as Rocky's so undefeated ok.
    How can Heavyweight's be P4P ?

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    Default Re: How is Donaire ahead of Williams, Haye, Dawson etc?

    I don't see a problem with having a heavyweight P4P, its just who you think would be the best fighters if they were all equal size and if there's a guy that good he should be in. We just don't have anybody that good these days.

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    Well what i am saying is that alot of the lower weights stay around the same weight dont move to many divsion like Lopez did in his career. Now i am not a expert on the man i seen few fights he was a good boxer. Also he was undefeated and held titles and fly and super fly iam guessing. If i am wrong on the weight classes my bad not looking it up right now. But from the list of names seen him beat his resume is on par with Rocky. Hence when people rate him above say Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes i really dont think based on his comp that he should be ahead of them. Also to me it seems if your a heavyweight and not Ali you get no respect in pound for pound. I mean like i said before you got Foreman, Fraizer, Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes none of which get tha much mention in the pound for pound picture. All i am saying i thik no matter what size they were great fighters. the heavyweights for some reason dont seem to be include in it and i think it is unfair that is all considering how many great champs have come for the divsion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Well what i am saying is that alot of the lower weights stay around the same weight dont move to many divsion like Lopez did in his career. Now i am not a expert on the man i seen few fights he was a good boxer. Also he was undefeated and held titles and fly and super fly iam guessing. If i am wrong on the weight classes my bad not looking it up right now. But from the list of names seen him beat his resume is on par with Rocky. Hence when people rate him above say Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes i really dont think based on his comp that he should be ahead of them. Also to me it seems if your a heavyweight and not Ali you get no respect in pound for pound. I mean like i said before you got Foreman, Fraizer, Holyfeild, Lennox and Holmes none of which get tha much mention in the pound for pound picture. All i am saying i thik no matter what size they were great fighters. the heavyweights for some reason dont seem to be include in it and i think it is unfair that is all considering how many great champs have come for the divsion.
    If I remember correctly Mike Tyson at his height did get rated as a top 10 p4p in the old issues of Ring Magazine in the late 80s. I guess it also depends on how dominant a guy is at his weight.

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