How credible is Ring Magazine and it's ratings?

[generalbulldog]

There are only 3 GBP boxers in the Ring Top 10, Juan Manuel Marquez, Bernard Hopkins & Shane Mosley, all of whom get in to almost all fans' top 10. There's a lot to criticize about GBP but manipulating Ring Magazine is not one of them.

However, in truth their rankings are just as open to being abused by idiotic choices as our own are

I guess that's a good way of looking at it. It's still a big conflict of interest for me with it being own by GBP, since Ring magazine is seen as an "authoritative" publication in the boxing world with it's Ring titles and that sort of stuff and p4p rankings and being quoted by lots of people for credibility.

[Britkid]

Ratings are personal opinions....

Think of it like this:

There are perhaps 100 Junior Welterweights in Britain alone, so maybe there are at least 1500 active 140lbers in the World?

And somehow a panel of experts have watched all these fighters, discussed and come to a consensus on the ten best, and placed them from one though to ten.....

Pound for pound there must be at least 12,000 active pro's weighing between what 100 and 400lbs? Yet every month this panel can come to an opinion on the ten best if they all weighed the same?

Even the best ratings are opinions, and the best ratings are your opinions!

[JazMerkin]

There are only 3 GBP boxers in the Ring Top 10, Juan Manuel Marquez, Bernard Hopkins & Shane Mosley, all of whom get in to almost all fans' top 10. There's a lot to criticize about GBP but manipulating Ring Magazine is not one of them.

However, in truth their rankings are just as open to being abused by idiotic choices as our own are

I guess that's a good way of looking at it. It's still a big conflict of interest for me with it being own by GBP, since Ring magazine is seen as an "authoritative" publication in the boxing world with it's Ring titles and that sort of stuff and p4p rankings and being quoted by lots of people for credibility.

My understanding was ODLH bought it as part of a plan to use it to revive public interest in boxing. The way that GBP fighters have come to monopolize HBO schedules is far more of a concern to me than the Ring thing, which as far as I can tell they have stuck to their word & stayed out of editorial decisions.

[El Kabong]

Well The Ring Champions are as follows:

Heavyweight: the winner of Wladimir Klitschko (IBF, WBO) vs Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)
Cruiserweight: Tomaz Adamek
Light Heavyweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT
Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT
Middleweight: Kelly Pavlik
Jr. Middleweight: VACANT
Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr./VACANT
Jr. Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez

You guys have issues with any of those

[Britkid]

Well The Ring Champions are as follows:

Heavyweight: the winner of Wladimir Klitschko (IBF, WBO) vs Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)

Light Heavyweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT


You guys have issues with any of those

Wlad or Chagaev also have to beat Vitali before they can claim the Championship.

Erdei may not be able to clean Calzaghe's boots, but he is champion in my eyes, bacause of being the man who beat the man etc, who won the Hill/Maske/Michalczweski fights.

[DaxxKahn]

Well The Ring Champions are as follows:

Heavyweight: the winner of Wladimir Klitschko (IBF, WBO) vs Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)

Light Heavyweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT


You guys have issues with any of those

Wlad or Chagaev also have to beat Vitali before they can claim the Championship.

Erdei may not be able to clean Calzaghe's boots, but he is champion in my eyes, bacause of being the man who beat the man etc, who won the Hill/Maske/Michalczweski fights.

Though I believe Vitaly would beat either of them fact is he has only been back for 2 fights, Wlad has been the dominate HW of the division like him or not he is the man to beat

[holmcall]

Great question. I do monthly ranking for another venue and it's a grueling job (but I love doing it). However, I benchmark against a number of sources including Fightnews.com, WBO, IBF, WBA, WBC, and Ring. I also use what I see on Saddo and my own reserach.

My bottom line is that Ring Magazine is not one of the better ones to bench mark against. I like Fightnews probably the best plus I depend on my own reserach when it comes to the lighter weights. I follow, South Korea, Japan Aand Thailand as closley as anyone I know. Most of the rankers are guessing when it comes to the real small guys and that's wrong.

Here is an example of my Flyweight Rankins for June. They will change on July 1:

Flyweight (112 lbs)

1. Nonito Donaire
2. Denkaosan Kaowichit
3. Daisuke Naito
4. Omar Narváez
5. Koki Kameda
6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7. Omar Andres Narvaez
8. Brahim Asloum
9. Luis Concepcion
10. Julio Cesar Miranda
11. Ponomrunglek Kratingdaeng
12. Bernard Inom
13. Takahisa Masuda
14. Moruti Mthalane
15. Omar Salado

[holmcall]

BTW, Here is the Ring's latest ranking re Flyweights:

CHAMPION: Vacant


1. Nonito Donaire
2. Daisuke Naito
3. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
4. Denkaosan Kaovichit
5. Omar Narvaez
6. Takefumi Sakata
7. Koki Kameda
8. Moruti Mthalane
9. Julio Cesar Miranda
10. Bernard Inom

[XaduBoxer]

Great question. I do monthly ranking for another venue and it's a grueling job (but I love doing it). However, I benchmark against a number of sources including Fightnews.com, WBO, IBF, WBA, WBC, and Ring. I also use what I see on Saddo and my own reserach.

My bottom line is that Ring Magazine is not one of the better ones to bench mark against. I like Fightnews probably the best plus I depend on my own reserach when it comes to the lighter weights. I follow, South Korea, Japan Aand Thailand as closley as anyone I know. Most of the rankers are guessing when it comes to the real small guys and that's wrong.

Here is an example of my Flyweight Rankins for June. They will change on July 1:

Flyweight (112 lbs)

1. Nonito Donaire
2. Denkaosan Kaowichit
3. Daisuke Naito
4. Omar Narváez
5. Koki Kameda
6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
7. Omar Andres Narvaez
8. Brahim Asloum
9. Luis Concepcion
10. Julio Cesar Miranda
11. Ponomrunglek Kratingdaeng
12. Bernard Inom
13. Takahisa Masuda
14. Moruti Mthalane
15. Omar Salado

Your list looks good... Appreciate the hardwork and headaches you had in putting such credible ranking...

BTW, I'm also a fan of FightNews rankings...
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[CGM]

Well The Ring Champions are as follows:

Heavyweight: the winner of Wladimir Klitschko (IBF, WBO) vs Ruslan Chagaev (WBA)
Cruiserweight: Tomaz Adamek
Light Heavyweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT
Super Middleweight: Joe Calzaghe/VACANT
Middleweight: Kelly Pavlik
Jr. Middleweight: VACANT
Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr./VACANT
Jr. Welterweight: Manny Pacquiao
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez

You guys have issues with any of those

Yeah, Ring Magazine should give up any pretensions they have about a Ring "belt", or a Ring "title", they are a magazine and that is all. They should just rank active fighters from one to ten and be done with it. None of this vacant crap for me.