My Top 30 p4p

[Spicoli]

That took some thought.Good stuff.P4P rankings are soooo subjective.Some attribute level of competiton,guys defeated and/or all around skillset and ring generalship. I'm struggling hard with Pavlik at # 11

[ElTerribleMorales]

That took some thought.Good stuff.P4P rankings are soooo subjective.Some attribute level of competiton,guys defeated and/or all around skillset and ring generalship. I'm struggling hard with Pavlik at # 11

yea i know, but if you really think about it, apart from the Hopkins fight, when has he really looked bad, i mean he didn't look great against Rubio but that was partially Rubio's fault, he wasn't trying to make it a fight, and when one fighter is doing everything well it's tough

[holmcall]

Man, you have guts. Listing 30 top fighters is like putting your balls between the jaws of a Bengal Tiger.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Man, you have guts. Listing 30 top fighters is like putting your balls between the jaws of a Bengal Tiger.

yea i'm still stuck at 18 lol

[kingfrnk]

Man, you have guts. Listing 30 top fighters is like putting your balls between the jaws of a Bengal Tiger.

yea i'm still stuck at 18 lol

u dont really need a top 30. 20 will do just fine imo.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Man, you have guts. Listing 30 top fighters is like putting your balls between the jaws of a Bengal Tiger.

yea i'm still stuck at 18 lol

u dont really need a top 30. 20 will do just fine imo.

well Julius Rain doesn't get that when you say "Donaire is probably at something LIKE p4p #30" well he takes it kinda literal, so i'm up for the task, just taking it apart piece by piece, overall up to now i've done the listing completely un-biased and putting fighter's that i don't necessarily like, but know they deserve to be on the list, such as JML, two said he should be on there, and IMO he does deserve a spot on the top 30, but he hasn't done enough to merit a place in the top 10 or even 15 really

[generalbulldog]

Donaire's competition is sad, especially after the Vic win. He's just living off of Vic's accomplishments now. You can live off it for so long.

A year from now people will still argue for the guy when he beats more bums, about he would beat this guy or that guy when he hasn't fought any good competition.

[Julius Rain]

Darchinyan may have the better resume, but Donaire still outclass him in every department. Skill, power, speed, stamina, chin, and above all Donaire is way smarter than Darchinyan. P4p doesn't only measured by resume. Basic common sense is also involved. And I'm sure the Ring sees it that way too. DONAIRE IS SIMPLY THE BETTER FIGHTER. Nuff said.

IMO a rematch would not bare the same result to be honest, not saying that Donaire wouldn't win, but Darchinyan's not the same fighter he was 2 years ago, Manny Pacquiao isn't the only fighter that can fix the probs in his style and improve on them, and Gorres, Hasegawa, and Montiel all beat Donaire, IMO Montiel stops him cold

Hows Montiel gonna stop Donaire cold?

yea i'm still stuck at 18 lol

u dont really need a top 30. 20 will do just fine imo.

well Julius Rain doesn't get that when you say "Donaire is probably at something LIKE p4p #30" well he takes it kinda literal, so i'm up for the task, just taking it apart piece by piece, overall up to now i've done the listing completely un-biased and putting fighter's that i don't necessarily like, but know they deserve to be on the list, such as JML, two said he should be on there, and IMO he does deserve a spot on the top 30, but he hasn't done enough to merit a place in the top 10 or even 15 really

and you failed.

[Spicoli]

That took some thought.Good stuff.P4P rankings are soooo subjective.Some attribute level of competiton,guys defeated and/or all around skillset and ring generalship. I'm struggling hard with Pavlik at # 11

yea i know, but if you really think about it, apart from the Hopkins fight, when has he really looked bad, i mean he didn't look great against Rubio but that was partially Rubio's fault, he wasn't trying to make it a fight, and when one fighter is doing everything well it's tough

I hear you.I think thats all part of the interpetaion of it all.Honestly man,Pavlik is a nice guy but he has all of 1 gear.He really did not show improvment off Hopkins loss in with Rubio who was a willing lamb but just getting back in winners colume was a good start.Taylor made some adjustments 2nd time around and Pavlik did show more focused straight jab and punching....but save for hurting Taylor to the body late I had him up by only a point if I remember right.Top of division yeh,but just would'nt have him a p4p top fighter in the world.Good effort on the listings though.