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    Default Re: Wlad Only Has Two Punches...

    You don't need to use more than two punches if your opponent is landing zero punches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    You don't need to use more than two punches if your opponent is landing zero punches.
    Your right he doesnt need to. But thats what separates good fighters from great fighters. Mike Tyson didnt need to knock almost all his opponents out either, he could have pummeled them to a decision, but that would hurt his status as a fighter imo. Wlad can keep doing what hes doing and get in the HOF but its in a less than immpressive way imo. Thats why I couldnt rate him up there with the ATGs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    You don't need to use more than two punches if your opponent is landing zero punches.
    Your right he doesnt need to. But thats what separates good fighters from great fighters. Mike Tyson didnt need to knock almost all his opponents out either, he could have pummeled them to a decision, but that would hurt his status as a fighter imo. Wlad can keep doing what hes doing and get in the HOF but its in a less than immpressive way imo. Thats why I couldnt rate him up there with the ATGs.
    And yet it was a dominating win for Wlad

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    Only 2? What does that say about the heavyweights who cannot figure him out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
    Only 2? What does that say about the heavyweights who cannot figure him out?
    They are either too small or too lazy. Hes just so big and strong that everything usually goes out the window when he lands the first right hand. He also knows his range very well, I give him credit for that and his timing.
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    Wlad KO'd Ray Austin in two and didnt even throw a right hand. Wlad has a better arsenal than most lower weight class fighters. Wlad hooks off the jab better than any fighter I have ever watched. He didnt even use that vs Ruslan. Is the Ruslan fight the only one of Wlad's you have watched?

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    No disrespect but from, what ive seen of him he isn't that good. He just has physical and height advantages over everyone else in the division. He's sort of like the LeBron James of boxing. He looks good only because he has no one else to challenge him in his position. As Lebron has maybe only one or two people at Small Forward that are good defenders to challenge him in the NBA so he is very dominant. Wladimer has no one that can match his height or physical talents in the heavyweight division so he looks dominant. Its probably why he isn't gonna lose anytime soon but he is the best heavyweight in the division not because he's ultra super skilled but because he is a big fish in a small pond.
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    If with only 2 good punches he mangles the whole division repeatedly, I really don't want to see what he could do if he decides to do more. Boring? Well, he's a Kronk Gym's type of fighter. Effective? Nothing better in the division, at the moment (except perhaps his brother).
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    Majesty, i think you got it exactly right. His huge physical advantages gives him a big edge over almost anyone. The skills of his opponents usually only dictates how many round the will last with him, but even a much more skilled fighter than himself would still be overwhelmed by his size/power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jon09 View Post
    Only 2? What does that say about the heavyweights who cannot figure him out?
    They are either too small or too lazy. Hes just so big and strong that everything usually goes out the window when he lands the first right hand. He also knows his range very well, I give him credit for that and his timing.
    It seems so weird to me when Vlad fights these shorter guys. The best analogy I have to compare him to a snake charmer. Once he starts popping them in the face with that hard jab, after backing off a couple of times, they start to fall into a pattern of just standing there right in the range of it and his right! Byrd, Ibragimov, Chagaev, and I can't remember if Rahman at least tried moved to around and give angles.

    The taller guys it makes more sense that they have to go after him more or less on the same terms, but time and again I expect these smaller guys to dip in, get inside, turn Vlad, and use angles. Instead they just stand right at the end of his punches and get hammered!

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    Wlad only really uses his jab and right hand because he doesn't have to use any other punches. He's so dominant with them.

    he also has a good left hook, i would like if he used it more often though.

    I would also like to see him work an opponents body, he could of taken out alot of guys sooner if he went downstairs sometimes.

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    the hard punch and the really hard punch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    You don't need to use more than two punches if your opponent is landing zero punches.
    Your right he doesnt need to. But thats what separates good fighters from great fighters. Mike Tyson didnt need to knock almost all his opponents out either, he could have pummeled them to a decision, but that would hurt his status as a fighter imo. Wlad can keep doing what hes doing and get in the HOF but its in a less than immpressive way imo. Thats why I couldnt rate him up there with the ATGs.
    And yet it was a dominating win for Wlad
    Im not saying otherwise. Look, I like Wlad. I think hes a classy guy and an genuinely good dude. Im just saying what I observe from him in the ring. Im not arguing that hes not the number one heavy in the world, I just think he limits himself a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    You don't need to use more than two punches if your opponent is landing zero punches.
    Your right he doesnt need to. But thats what separates good fighters from great fighters. Mike Tyson didnt need to knock almost all his opponents out either, he could have pummeled them to a decision, but that would hurt his status as a fighter imo. Wlad can keep doing what hes doing and get in the HOF but its in a less than immpressive way imo. Thats why I couldnt rate him up there with the ATGs.
    It's difficult to compare. I can appreciate the attitude of why make a fight any harder than it needs to be? - so he uses the jab, footwork and the occasional right hand.

    He has imposed his game plan, his will on the opponent. It's up them to make him change.

    It is a skill to be that controlling, more considered that charging across the ring looking to knock someones head of like Tyson

    Anyone else notice how often Wlad stood on his foot whilst delivering punches? It's the reason Chagaev got knocked down.

    That's a skill - you know you're doing it.

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    Wlad brings out a fuller range of punches when necessary. He adapts to his opponnent and uses what works. He's the best.

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