KLITSCHKO vs CHAGAEV

[piye]

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

what hand does he jab with?

Good thing for Wlad he rarely throws the left.

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

[Violent Demise]

what hand does he jab with?

Wlad hardly throws a left

I think you're confused VD, Piye is saying that Haye could have some sucsess if he were to slip to the outside of Wlad's left hand and throw an overhand right at Wlad.

Did you misread his post or are you honestly telling us that Wlad doesn't throw his left hand much?

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

[piye]

I don't consider his jab a left hand. He uses it as a range finder most of the time. When he does it's impossible to counter

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

[Violent Demise]

I'm sure this is dependent on how fast you are.

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

[AdamGB]

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

[piye]

You seen it get counter yet?

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

[AdamGB]

He's a talented fighter but he sure as hell doesn't fight like a champ... I don't like fighters to just brawl but come on...

Tyson was more than just a brawler (early on anyway) and I wouldn't say that his opposition was much better than Wlad's... Wlad uses his superior size to basically fence with people until throwing out a cautious (if hard) right hand... Tyson wouldn't let them breath... they were inferior fighters to Tyson but the manor he dispatched of them is why Tyson is and would have still been a bigger name than Brock fucking Lesnar and why nobody really gives a damn about Wlad.

[Violent Demise]

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

Learn to read between the lines. He listed them as if they contributed to his losses.

Yes against Corrie Sanders and against Brewster and against Sam Peter etc.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

So now it's Wlad fault his opponents can't beat him? Gimmie a fukking break. Wlad is what he is. Accept it.

Lesner a former pro wrestler became champ in what his 3rd or 4th fight? That pretty much says it all about the crap otherwise known as UFC

[AdamGB]

Learn to read between the lines. He listed them as if they contributed to his losses.

I'm not in the habbit of putting words or anything else for that matter into guy's mouths vd

Lesner a former pro wrestler became champ in what his 3rd or 4th fight? That pretty much says it all about the crap otherwise known as UFC

Yup... I remember when Kimbo Slice got beat the commentators were going wild about it as if Buster Douglas had just Dethroned Tyson all over again... The guy is an aging back yard boxer who'd had like 2 fights or something... what a joke.

[piye]

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

he never said that they were major factors in the fight, just that counters were landed at some point.

Learn to read between the lines. He listed them as if they contributed to his losses.

You never saw those fights, did you? They had nothing to do with him being countered.

lol, no I never watched the fights. blah, let me ask you this are you really happy with Wlad spearheading your favorite sport? I mean a Kids entertainer Brock Lesner is champ of UFC and is a much bigger name worldwide than Wlad. Wlad is a gentleman and a nice guy but he is really stopping the sport from having any cross over success in the heavyweight division.

So now it's Wlad fault his opponents can't beat him? Gimmie a fukking break. Wlad is what he is. Accept it.

Lesner a former pro wrestler became champ in what his 3rd or 4th fight? That pretty much says it all about the crap otherwise known as UFC

Ok mate don't swear relax! it's not that serious , listen you blatently let your hate for any thing British affect your opinion of fights so why am I discussing this with you? you are not really looking at it with any common sense. Wlad is a terrible champ for a sport that is supposed to be primarily entertaining. ANd what I watched to night was not entertainment. Lesner (No I do not watch UFC) is entertaining and that is why he was given a shot and is now champ.

Wlad is not responsible for his opponents being unable to beat him. But it's clear that as regular as Wlad uses that jab someone fast enough (Not many heavyweights) will counter it and make him pay.

Has Wlad ever fought anyone as fast as Haye?