KLITSCHKO vs CHAGAEV

[Master]

Haye will get beat, there is no doubt in my mind, Chagaev is the third best heavyweight out there and he got dispatched convincingly.

[rjj tszyu]

It's been a while since anyone has said Haye is too small, but he is naturally bigger than Chagaev. Chagaev weighed 224 last night but look how fat he was. He must have been carrying 20% body fat, Haye weighed in at 215 for his last fight with Monte Barrett and couldn't have been carrying much more than 5%.

He has grown into a decent sized Heavyweight like Muhammad Ali did after winning the LHW olympic Gold.

[The Fightfan]

I agreed with some of the thing's the commentater's said. Wlad looked completely relaxed and in control the entire fight.That was about it. Chagaev was the best heavyweight out there and Wlad demolished him. Haye wouldn't do a damn thing except throw caution to the wind and just throw bombs for about 3 rounds ultimately missing everyone one of them. Punching himself completely out making Wlad take control and doing exactley what he did to Chageav and the rest of the fighter's since Byrd. Which is stand right in front of him jab the shit out of him seldomly throwing a right hand that will hurt him everytime he unleashes it,toying with him until Haye says ok I've had enough and quits on his stool like everyone of Wlad's latest oppenent's.

I do think it is pretty funny how many think Haye will knock Klitschko out. I mean have you people even looked at the connect percentage against Wlad in his last recent outing's.The man is basically unhittable. The reason for him not throwing combinations as he had done in the past is most likely do to his chin. E-man is not a dummy he is a world class trainer,there is a reason he is throwing only straight punches and that is simply to stay in his range and nobody else's. With him fighting like this it makes us fall asleep but keeps him high and dry where nobody can get to him.

I guess the next thing is when Haye shows his balls and actually commits to fighting and walks through the ropes rather than talking about it.

[rjj tszyu]

This was Wlads 7th consecutive successful defence since beating Chris Byrd. That's quite impressive as i see him fighting Povetkin next and making it 8.

With the division as it is and after what he said about Haye having to fight himself back into the line I see him making it to 10 without too many problems. Not many HW champs get 10 consecutive defences under their belts.

[paddy448]

to be fair klitschko did what he had to do, hes very predictable tho and if u was getting ready for a fight against him ud fancy it big time. i think hes very good at what he does tho and people dont realise that, however after just watching the fight i strongly fancy haye. haye would land that right hand all day long and he only needs to land cleanly once and its zzzzzzzz time. ill put my neck on the line and say i think haye could make it look easy

[The Fightfan]

to be fair klitschko did what he had to do, hes very predictable tho and if u was getting ready for a fight against him ud fancy it big time. i think hes very good at what he does tho and people dont realise that, however after just watching the fight i strongly fancy haye. haye would land that right hand all day long and he only needs to land cleanly once and its zzzzzzzz time. ill put my neck on the line and say i think haye could make it look easy

So you don't think Haye's chin will be in the picture also? and that Haye will make it look easy heh? That's it I'm done.

[paddy448]

to be fair klitschko did what he had to do, hes very predictable tho and if u was getting ready for a fight against him ud fancy it big time. i think hes very good at what he does tho and people dont realise that, however after just watching the fight i strongly fancy haye. haye would land that right hand all day long and he only needs to land cleanly once and its zzzzzzzz time. ill put my neck on the line and say i think haye could make it look easy

So you don't think Haye's chin will be in the picture also? and that Haye will make it look easy heh? That's it I'm done.

u no what u have a very valid point there my friend. u can say that both have suspect chins. for me tho hayes speed is the factor. yeah i may very well be wrong, i have been many times before, all im going on is what i see, i think haye will always be first to the punch and this is vital. like i said i may be wrong but i think hayes speed gives klits fits. i think haye kos him in a brutal fashion. thats just my opinion. may i ask how u think the fight will go buddy

[El Kabong]

IMO Wlad's athletic ability and jab nullify David Haye's speed...I just think Wlad has too much experience and there are too many questions about David Haye, I think this guy is so hyped up in hopes of glossing over his obvious flaws that lesser opponents have already exposed.

David Haye has potential but he hasn't proven anything at heavyweight other than he is a guy who can piss off Wladimir Klitschko the most...did you see his interview after the fight? Wlad doesn't want to beat David Haye he wants to punish him for 11 rounds and knock him out in the 12th...the way Wlad was talking and the way he fought, David Haye wouldn't last 4 rounds with him.

The guys Wladimir fights throw punches in every other fight they have had before or since but the reason they don't let their hands go vs Wladimir is because he hits hard and he doesn't give away angles or clear punching opportunities...that jab just takes the fight right out of guys, they stop looking for punching opportunities and start focusing on avoiding getting nailed with the jab.

That fight vs Chagaev is one of the most dominant performances at the very top of this division I have seen in a long time...Ruslan is no slouch, he's a top level fighter but he was just outclassed and overmatched.

[El Kabong]

It's been a while since anyone has said Haye is too small, but he is naturally bigger than Chagaev. Chagaev weighed 224 last night but look how fat he was. He must have been carrying 20% body fat, Haye weighed in at 215 for his last fight with Monte Barrett and couldn't have been carrying much more than 5%.

He has grown into a decent sized Heavyweight like Muhammad Ali did after winning the LHW olympic Gold.

#1 Chagaev was in very good shape...he wasn't fat, he just wasn't chisled. I would say his body fat % was probably 8%-12% if that much. He was certainly in superb shape as compared to the likes of Sam Peter, Cris Arreola, and Eddie Chambers

#2 Lot's of guys have the size to be heavyweight champions but very few of them have the skill to accomplish such a feat