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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Really? You're supporting this behavior?

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    He still says he is the best mate that's why I can't stand the guy at times.
    Also a big reason why I'm losing respect for him. You can't call yourself an ATG if you're not fighting the best. Don't get me wrong, he is one without a doubt, but when it comes to his place in history you can downplay him because he handpicks his opponents now-a-days
    Last edited by C-Lo; 06-21-2009 at 04:21 PM. Reason: error

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Well, I don't blame him as a businessman but as a fighter he is no longer fighting the better competition. He is much like DLH was in the latter part of his career. They are now just businessmen who happen to fight. Floyd just happens to be spectacular at it. Could be the all time best but we'll never know. Thats what riles fans up. Even the ones who push for him want to have something more to cement their claim for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Lo View Post
    Really? You're supporting this behavior?
    From a business point of view I would fight guys like Marquez for 15 mil than fight guys like Cotto, Pacman (catchweight), Mosley for a few mil more that can take away my 0 from the loss column. Mark my words it's going to be Hatton-Mayweather 2 at Wembley on HBO PPV or Khan-Mayweather at a catch weight. He'll be making over 30 mil easy for those 2 fights with PPV percentage he receives.

    This is a business, point blank. Floyd has nothing to prove. 6 time champ in 5 divisions. That's his resume. He's the best pound for pound fighter of this generation. Boxing history will say that. They're not going to say anything about his opponents. They'll look at that big fat 0 next to his loss column and argue that.

    How important is that big fat 0? Take Rocky Marciano for example, fight fans are still saying that he would beat a prime Ali and that he kicked Joe Louis ass and beat up Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Archie Moore. And that he is the greatest heavyweight champion ever or arguing that. But what they don't see was that everyone of these boxing greats were well past their primes. Only hardcore fans see that. Casual sports and fight fans just know that Joe Louis got his ass kicked but they didn't know that Joe Louis was basically shot with no handspeed, accuracy, endurance, quick reflexes that he lost at age 37. Even boxing historians hardly mentioned that. They just say Marciano kicked his ass and knocked him through the ropes.

    That's how important that big fat 0 is. It forms a different perception. All Money Floyd has to do is take fights like Marquez an blown up featherweight kicked his ass and say I beat an all time great that gave the other p4p champion of that era all kinds of trouble. Ain't no one going to argue that 20 years from now. They will just look at the big fat 0 and the 6 time champ in 5 classes.

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    I'm not sure a fight being cancelled because of very poor ticket sales is a 'smart business'.

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Floyd will eventually realize that he is now a garbage. He'll always be known as a guy who avoided threatening opponents in his league to keep his record and untarnished.

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    because its bout boxing not buisiness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Floyd will eventually realize that he is now a garbage. He'll always be known as a guy who avoided threatening opponents in his league to keep his record and untarnished.
    Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfreddy, Unbeaten Diego Corrales, an dangerous opponent in Zab Judah, giving up significant weight advantages to his opponents on fight night like Delahoya, Baldomir, etc. Also was the first to KO Hatton.

    Whereas Manny beats over the hill fighters like Morales 2 that lost to Raheem. An MAB that was in so many wars already. Beating an weight drain Delahoya, beatin up on Hatton which Floyd already did. And Floyd's numbers for the same 2 opponents are significantly better tahn Mannys. Floyd don't fight weight drain opponents and that's a fact.

    Not to mention the most physically gifted fighter since Roy Jones and the best defensive fighter in the game. The way Manny fights and takes so many hits to the head, he's going to wind up like Freddie Roach.

    And another thing, Floyd doesn't get KO by bum fighters named Torrecampo or however you spell it.

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    I have no problem with a business man who doesnm,t want to take risk but I definitely have a problem with a clown who's actions aren,t going in the same direction as his runningmouth.
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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Floyd will eventually realize that he is now a garbage. He'll always be known as a guy who avoided threatening opponents in his league to keep his record and untarnished.
    Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfreddy, Unbeaten Diego Corrales, an dangerous opponent in Zab Judah, giving up significant weight advantages to his opponents on fight night like Delahoya, Baldomir, etc. Also was the first to KO Hatton.

    Whereas Manny beats over the hill fighters like Morales 2 that lost to Raheem. An MAB that was in so many wars already. Beating an weight drain Delahoya, beatin up on Hatton which Floyd already did. And Floyd's numbers for the same 2 opponents are significantly better tahn Mannys. Floyd don't fight weight drain opponents and that's a fact.

    Not to mention the most physically gifted fighter since Roy Jones and the best defensive fighter in the game. The way Manny fights and takes so many hits to the head, he's going to wind up like Freddie Roach.

    And another thing, Floyd doesn't get KO by bum fighters named Torrecampo or however you spell it.
    You said yourself Floyd picks easier fights for the most money and now it's like your trying to defend his resume and make his opponents of late seem more dangerous than they actually were.

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    Default Re: Why Blame Floyd For Being Smart About Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Floyd will eventually realize that he is now a garbage. He'll always be known as a guy who avoided threatening opponents in his league to keep his record and untarnished.
    Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfreddy, Unbeaten Diego Corrales, an dangerous opponent in Zab Judah, giving up significant weight advantages to his opponents on fight night like Delahoya, Baldomir, etc. Also was the first to KO Hatton.

    Whereas Manny beats over the hill fighters like Morales 2 that lost to Raheem. An MAB that was in so many wars already. Beating an weight drain Delahoya, beatin up on Hatton which Floyd already did. And Floyd's numbers for the same 2 opponents are significantly better tahn Mannys. Floyd don't fight weight drain opponents and that's a fact.

    Not to mention the most physically gifted fighter since Roy Jones and the best defensive fighter in the game. The way Manny fights and takes so many hits to the head, he's going to wind up like Freddie Roach.

    And another thing, Floyd doesn't get KO by bum fighters named Torrecampo or however you spell it.
    You said yourself Floyd picks easier fights for the most money and now it's like your trying to defend his resume and make his opponents of late seem more dangerous than they actually were.
    Now he picks easier fights, and the key word here is NOW, but early in his career those guys were dangerous opponents in their prime and at their best. And I think Corrales was the favorite in that fight at Super Featherweight. Guys like Cotto, Margarito, Clottey weren't even in the picture as top welterweights when he was fighting Judah, Baldomir. So can't say he ducked them. And Baldomir was the linear champ at 147.

    There is nothing wrong with minimizing your risks and maximizing your earnings. He's the best of his era, he has fought the most dangerous opponents for most of his career except for this Marquez fight. He should make his money and split, nothing else to prove. The undefeated number doesn't lie with 6 titles at 5 divisions.

    And I'll say it again, at least he doesn't make champions in other weight classes be weight drain to take their title belts as is the case with Manny wanting to fight Cotto and Mosley at 141 to take their welterweight belts.
    Last edited by generalbulldog; 06-21-2009 at 08:28 PM.

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