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    Default how good were these guys in their prime

    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik

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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Mid 90's Roy Jones was friggin unbelievable. He could walk on water in his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good

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    ICB sums it up pretty well. Except I dont consider Dawson to be great, not yet. Not really better than prime Tarver imo. Roy was the most amazing in his prime but Hopkins was brilliant in his prime too.
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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Jones was obviously absolutely unbelievable..

    paul williams probably has the most potential on that list..

    Kessler is a great technical fighter and has a lot to offer but needs some bigger fights..

    Pavlik is a great puncher and has been getting a bit more technical but has shown that he can be beaten by good foot movement and accuracy.

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    Hopkins-Great.Think he's the better skilled fighter of the lot

    Williams,Kessler and Pavlik solid effort-desire...nice skills but see only goodness at the end.

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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good
    I agree with that perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    ICB sums it up pretty well. Except I dont consider Dawson to be great, not yet. Not really better than prime Tarver imo. Roy was the most amazing in his prime but Hopkins was brilliant in his prime too.
    You don't consider Dawson great? How He beat Tarver twice easily. Tarver was no superb fighter ever. Good, nothing more. He has 2 names on his winning record. Dawson already has more. Johnson, Tarver, and Adamek. In those fights he is 4-0. The two names Tarver has RJJ, who was not prime, and Johnson. His record in those fights is 3-2. The names he has on his total record is 4, RJJ Johnson B-Hop Dawson, with a record against them as 3-5. And remember Dawson just started his prime. Tarver is really close to a one trick pony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good
    Change Dawson to "Good" and I'd agree with that assesment
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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good

    I agree mostly but until BCD and PW fight a few more elite names I will not consider them great, both have the potential to be great but neither has really hit their primes yet so we must reserve the GREAT moniker until the book is written

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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good
    Agreed.

    Id like to think that Kess can become great but we'll have to wait and see.

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    I think we have seen the best of Pavlik. It's all downhill from here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IcemanKO View Post
    Antonio Tarver
    Roy Jones Jr
    B-Hop

    and how great could these guys be
    Chad Dawson
    Paul Williams
    Mikkel Kessler
    Kelly Pavlik
    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good
    Change Dawson to "Good" and I'd agree with that assesment
    BIG H the 2nd question was how great could those last 4 fighters be, i don't think Chad Dawson is great at the moment. But i think he has the potiental to be great.

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    Default Re: how good were these guys in their prime

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    I think we have seen the best of Pavlik. It's all downhill from here!






    i doubt it he hasnt even hit his prime yet and works like crazy to get better he just needs to learn more skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Antonio Tarver = Good
    Roy Jones Jr = Amazing
    Bernard Hopkins = Great

    Chad Dawson = Great
    Paul Williams = Great
    Mikkel Kessler = Good
    Kelly Pavlik = Good
    Change Dawson to "Good" and I'd agree with that assesment
    BIG H the 2nd question was how great could those last 4 fighters be, i don't think Chad Dawson is great at the moment. But i think he has the potiental to be great.
    Yeh I know mate, I just don't think he will become "Great"

    I think Paul Williams could become "Great" and probably will!

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