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JT, how can you say this as a Floyd fan? I mean, I'm a Mayweather fan too and no Wlad fan, but Mayweather has at times been just as cautious as Wlad and Wlad at times has poured it on just as much as Mayweather ever has.
One. Mayweather rarely towers over his foes with a weight and massive reach advantage.

Two. Mayweather is not a knockout puncher

Three. Mayweather fights with a counter punching style not just because he doesn't have the power to stand and bang with someone but because of his fragile hands. Mayweather has reason to be cautious because he isn't the biggest or hardest punching guy in there, he often isn't the bigger guy in the ring, and everyone he fights is basically more often then not the same size as him or bigger.


Wladimer has height, reach, youth, athleticism, speed and power over EVERY heavyweight he faces so what does he have to be cautious about?
BOOYEA! Game set, match Amat! Majesty couldnt have said it any better.

I addressed this already in an earlier post, if Wlad was in a lower weight his style would be great if he was a welter or middle, since the physical advantages arent as dramatic.

Lyle I have no problem with Wlad starting a fight Jabbing and 1-2 for a few rounds, since I agree it's absolute presicion and a thing of beauty and I am a fan of that brand of fighting.

BUT

My only issue with Wlad is when its obvious early that he has stifled the guy with a jab, hammered him with a few rights and has them on the backfoot he dosent go for the kill when there is blood in the water, no bodywork, no hooks no killer instinct just repetitive jabs. No one is advocating a Tyson approach were he runs out in the middle of the ring and blitzes his opponent. He would be more appealing if he put his foot on the gas when its obvious his fights could be over in 3-4 rounds instead of 8-9.

I'll even venture a guess and say Wlad hasnt lost a round in a fight since Peter dropped him 3 times back in 05. Bottomline is Wlad should shift gears faster against guys that he clearly outguns and is dominating.

Thats why I am not a fan of his, I believe his chin and mental state is that fragile that he wont try to finish guys like Chageav, Rahman, Byrd, Imbragimov

Since when is the name of the game finishing a guy? And btw, he finished every single one of those you mentioned except Ibragimov, so what you are talking about? Really, he may not have poured it on for you enough but he definitely poured it on enough for all those guys who were actually in the ring against him. And as far as I'm concerned that's what matters.

I am no Wlad fan, I actually consider him one dimensional and I loathed his performance in the Ibragimov fight with all the holding. But the Wlad that faced Chagaev was an improved product who did almost no holding and when he had the opportunity to fire the right hand, he did. It wasn't perfect, could have been more punches but he punished the guy and never really gave the guy an opportunity to win. I'm sorry for not finding as many flaws in a performance where the opponent probably didn't land more then 10 clean punches the entire fight as others. The nitpicking is at an all time high here.