Vitali-Haye moves closer for 12th september

[rjj tszyu]

This is possibly the most ludicrous post I have read in my short time here at Saddo...

To suggest that he should have gone for a Better quality of opponent in his first fight as a HW is plainly nonsense!! Do you bypass the position that Haye needs to bring himself on, like any other HW would in their first legitimate fight in the Division...just to make a soundbite

Then to cap it all off you say Haye has accomplished nothing...I nearly pissed myself laughing He was undisputed Cruiserweight Champion...your're biasness blinds you

Well I'm happy you enjoyed that post, allow me to explain stuff you might have misinterpretted.

#1 David Haye was asked who would be his opponent for 11-15-2008 and HAYE said it would be a household name and a dangerous fighter....he fought Monte Barrett who is none of the above. Should David not get called out for talking one way and acting in another way

#2 I never said David should act like any other heavyweight just entering the division. I said David should fight better competition and well now he should just fight. He's either the Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion who is ready to do something at heavyweight OR he's just a novice heavyweight, he should either fight GOOD fighters or work his way up, he cannot have it both ways!

#3 David Haye accomplished something at CRUISERWEIGHT. What cruiserweights ...what CHAMPION cruiserweights have moved on to heavyweight and actually gone on to have success? Holyfield? James Toney? My reason for bringing it up is because it's not something that happens all the time HOWEVER cruiserweights moving up to heavyweight and getting destroyed does happen an awful lot and even to the good cruiserweights.

#4 What has Haye accomplished that gives you Haye fans any hope of him doing well in the heavyweight division? He's a cruiserweight champ...so was Vassily Jirov, so were Dwight Qawi, Carlos DeLeon, Ossie Ocasio and not a one of them had success at heavyweight.

I'm not biased, I'm just waiting for David Haye's ACTIONS to match his talk

Your not biased? For real?

[El Kabong]

Well which part of that last post was biased?

[mofo2]

Well which part of that last post was biased?

1..The part where you expect a fighter new in a division to be taking on Dangerous fighters instead of easing himself in

2..Then the part where you dismiss the fact he was Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion as having achieved nothing


There is nothing wrong in not rating a fighter or believing the division he fights in is'nt that good..and then putting a reasoned argument to why you believe that point of view...but to expect him to live up to his claims on the back of one fight and one Pull out because of injury without really giving any valid reason....I GOTTA SAY SEEMS CUT AND DRIED BIAS TO ME

[El Kabong]

#1 David Haye wants to fight the Klitschko's in his 3rd heavyweight fight after fighting the likes of Tomaz Bonin and Monte Barrett so either David Haye is ready to fight the top level guys or he isn't. I would have had 0 issue had Haye fought a Sam Peter or hell even Oleg Maskaev or Andrew Golota someone who actually used to fight at the top level and THEN called out Wlad but he fought 2 bums and called out Wlad, that doesn't add up to me. Even if you look at Floyd Mayweather Jr. taking a tune up fight to get ready at 140, he fought Demarcus Corley a guy who actually did something at 140.

#2 Which of those guys as cruiserweight that David Haye beat would do anything at heavyweight I think Haye has talent and everything but history has shown us that cruiserweights don't usually do all that great in the heavyweight division.

[mofo2]

#1 David Haye wants to fight the Klitschko's in his 3rd heavyweight fight after fighting the likes of Tomaz Bonin and Monte Barrett so either David Haye is ready to fight the top level guys or he isn't. I would have had 0 issue had Haye fought a Sam Peter or hell even Oleg Maskaev or Andrew Golota someone who actually used to fight at the top level and THEN called out Wlad but he fought 2 bums and called out Wlad, that doesn't add up to me. Even if you look at Floyd Mayweather Jr. taking a tune up fight to get ready at 140, he fought Demarcus Corley a guy who actually did something at 140.

#2 Which of those guys as cruiserweight that David Haye beat would do anything at heavyweight I think Haye has talent and everything but history has shown us that cruiserweights don't usually do all that great in the heavyweight division.

I can't but disagree..I like Haye and think he has great potential in the division and has gone about it the right way..although I can agree his mouth does himself no favours and causes enough debate to cover most forums between the fans who follow him and the fans who despise him!

Sometimes I think just shut up myself TBH.