Am i the only one who thinks Pacquiao should be fighting Mosley??

[Boxerharvey]

At last someone that thinks the same as me. Pacman should definetly fight Mosley instead of Cotto but I think Pacman saw the weakness's in Cotto's arsenal after the Margarito and the Clottey fight and thinks it will be an easier fight than facing Mosley.
Mosley agreed to all Mannys and Roaches terms but still they both decided to fight Cotto instead. Who can blame Pacman for going for the easier fight I spose I just hope that Cotto KOs his arse.
I think Shane looked too good in beating Margarito and it has left him out in the cold with only a possible fight with the freak that is Williams (which I dont blame anyone not wanting to fight with his reach and punch output) and Clottey who is a dangerous fight but for little reward in imop.

[paddy448]

At last someone that thinks the same as me. Pacman should definetly fight Mosley instead of Cotto but I think Pacman saw the weakness's in Cotto's arsenal after the Margarito and the Clottey fight and thinks it will be an easier fight than facing Mosley.
Mosley agreed to all Mannys and Roaches terms but still they both decided to fight Cotto instead. Who can blame Pacman for going for the easier fight I spose I just hope that Cotto KOs his arse.
I think Shane looked too good in beating Margarito and it has left him out in the cold with only a possible fight with the freak that is Williams (which I dont blame anyone not wanting to fight with his reach and punch output) and Clottey who is a dangerous fight but for little reward in imop.

totally agree

[Rantcatrat]

PBF should be fighting Mosely, not Marquez. Mosely would beat Pacquiao and PBF in my opinion. He is the class at 147, which is more the reason why Pacquiao should beat the rest before taking the biggest risk. Wait for age to catch up with Shane a little bit.

Mosely deserves a big pay day, but at the end of the day if it don't make dollas' then it don't make cents'. A fight with Cotto is a bigger fight financially and is less risky. Thus, there is no reason to fight Mosely with Cotto available. Cotto, like Pacquiao, is also managed by Top Rank, which means that fight makes more money for Arum. Additionally, Cotto beat Mosely.

And the Cotto fight is no easy fight by any means. It was agreed to be at 145 from what I understand, which Cotto can easily make. Cotto has fought the best welterweights in the business and has a near impeccable CV.

Also, after brutally destroying Hatton, absolutely crushing him and probably sending him into retirement, and making ODLH quit on his stool, Pacquiao deserves to take any fight he wants right now.

[belakbox]

I'd give Pacquiao credit for fighting any of the top welters with belts and would pay money to watch any of them. It makes sense for him to take the biggest money available. I think Cotto brings more money than Mosely, but I'm no expert on this by any means.

[jon09]

I would love to see it but like other people have said in this thread, Mosley is more dangerous at this point than Cotto, who showed alot of vulnerability in the Clottey fight. Mosley has an iron chin and Roach probably feels that it will be along night if and when they decide to take on Sugar. Where Cotto is starting show alot more wear and tear as of late. I think most ranked Welters are hoping that father time catches up to Mosley and are going to avoid him as long as they possibly can.

[fan johnny]

It's a never ending story of the excuses. Mosley lost to Cotto, so logically it makes more sense for him to fight Cotto.

[AdamGB]

And Cotto got torn up against Margarito (the same guy that Mosley outboxed, out fought and generally just schooled) and then struggled to win convincingly against Clottey...

So really I think logic can go out the window...

[fan johnny]

And Cotto got torn up against Margarito (the same guy that Mosley outboxed, out fought and generally just schooled) and then struggled to win convincingly against Clottey...

So really I think logic can go out the window...

If it were a round robin tournament, I'd agree but basically I'm only comparing Mosley and Cotto. Margacheato is not in the picture.

[AdamGB]

And Cotto got torn up against Margarito (the same guy that Mosley outboxed, out fought and generally just schooled) and then struggled to win convincingly against Clottey...

So really I think logic can go out the window...

If it were a round robin tournament, I'd agree but basically I'm only comparing Mosley and Cotto. Margacheato is not in the picture.

Yeah but my point is that Pac's team must know that Cottos is more flawed/vunerable than Mosley, hence taking cottos instead.

One thing that Cotto will have going for him is that Pac's team won't find it as easy to weight drain Cotto (on paper at least anyway) as with Oscar/the attempt at Mosley, he's not as big in the first place and isn't that long removed from 140.

[holmcall]

Mosley should take a tune-up and then fight the winner of PBF-JMM. In my opinion.

[generalbulldog]

Pac-Cotto is bigger event than Pac-Mosley. And why would team pac take a big-risk-low-reward fight?

Ding, Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.
The same reason why Pacman won't fight Mosley is the same reason why Mosley and basically every Welterweight out there didn't want to fight Paul Williams.

[Taeth]

Wow people on here way overrate MOsley, did you see him against Mayorga? The first Vargas fight? Against Vernon Forest? Against Winky WRight?

Mosley is a really good fighter, but look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, then what Mosley did against him, and PBF beat Oscar handily. Mosley is getting way too much credit for beating a sitting duck in Magarito who is slow as hell, and the only thing you have to do against him is move half decently.

Cotto beat Mosley, and I think Clottey would give Mosley more than he could handle as well. I mean Clottey wouldn't be hurt by Mosley, he has fast enough hands to land on Mosley, and his defense is good enough to block Mosley's predictable offensive sequences.

Mosley is in the same league as Cotto and Clottey and the rest of the top WW, which is a step below Mayweather, and possibly Pacquiao, I am not sure how Pacquiao skills will matchup against somebody with speed similar to his own because that has been his huge advantage against Oscar and Hatton so far. That being said Mosley is hardly a gifted counter puncher against anyone with any semblance of a defense, or he hasn't been for some time. IMO Marquez has the same type of handspeed as current Mosley, but he is so much sharper.

IMO Pacquiao-Mosley is 50/50
and PAcquiao-Cotto is 60/40, but it will be much bigger for the sport, and Manny will get similar credit as he should fighting Mosley because Cotto has much better timing, hits harder, and IMO naturally bigger than Mosley in everyway except height and reach.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Im not really fussed with Pac fight Mosley. Im more into Mosley fighting Mayweather (Who has more credibility at 147)

[JonesJrMayweather]

De La Hoya did his 2 worst PPVs with Mosley. And usually the big names of the sport manages to do really well when fighting Oscar the cash cow. Not to mentioned the Margarito-Mosley fight didn't sell that well.

Hell Floyd called out Shane years ago when Floyd was still at Super Feather to do business in the ring and Shane said no, now Shane wants a big money fight and all the guys are saying hell no because you don't draw viewers. So basically a high risk low reward type of fight for everyone. Only Shane has himself to blame. If I was Pacman I would rather fight for bigger money with Cotto and his large fanbase of Puerto Ricans or Mayweather and his status in the game as the default P4p champ wtih a zero loss for the mythical p4p title.

(1) Its just a flat fucking lie either that or you're severely misinformed. ODLH v Mosley 2 sold had over 950k buys..which is ranks 4th only behind oscar's fights with PBF, TITO, and BHOP...All the others are earned and sold less...Whichs includes VArgas, Quartey, Mayorga, Sweet Pea, JCC, Gernaro Hernandez and Sturm so please with the mosely isn't a draw bull shit.

(2) Neiher Mayweather or Shane ever really talked about fighting each back then and it was only discussed after Shane was ranked p4p 1 in the same year that floyd won Fighter of the year and it was just that. Simple speculation. Shane had moved up to face oscar while floyd was having trouble with JLC a fight that ended all the speculation about he'd do against at that time Shane mosely no 1 p4p.

Im not really fussed with Pac fight Mosley. Im more into Mosley fighting Mayweather (Who has more credibility at 147)

I agree too, I wonder what dick head neg repped you? PBF-SHANE is a much better fight than watching either one of them school manny esp PBF would expose Manny's reach. I think floyd would actually stop manny late and shane would walk through him.

Wow people on here way overrate MOsley, did you see him against Mayorga? The first Vargas fight? Against Vernon Forest? Against Winky WRight?

Mosley is a really good fighter, but look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, then what Mosley did against him, and PBF beat Oscar handily. Mosley is getting way too much credit for beating a sitting duck in Magarito who is slow as hell, and the only thing you have to do against him is move half decently.

Cotto beat Mosley, and I think Clottey would give Mosley more than he could handle as well. I mean Clottey wouldn't be hurt by Mosley, he has fast enough hands to land on Mosley, and his defense is good enough to block Mosley's predictable offensive sequences.

Mosley is in the same league as Cotto and Clottey and the rest of the top WW, which is a step below Mayweather, and possibly Pacquiao, I am not sure how Pacquiao skills will matchup against somebody with speed similar to his own because that has been his huge advantage against Oscar and Hatton so far. That being said Mosley is hardly a gifted counter puncher against anyone with any semblance of a defense, or he hasn't been for some time. IMO Marquez has the same type of handspeed as current Mosley, but he is so much sharper.

IMO Pacquiao-Mosley is 50/50
and PAcquiao-Cotto is 60/40, but it will be much bigger for the sport, and Manny will get similar credit as he should fighting Mosley because Cotto has much better timing, hits harder, and IMO naturally bigger than Mosley in everyway except height and reach.

I sometimes wonder what you have against Shane...

(1) You ask did anyone see how shane did against 4 fighters that are naturally bigger than. Winky, MAYORGA, FoRRest. VARGAS. Two of whom he stopped!?!?!?!?!?!? Winky has been up to 174. And has Taylor, hopkins, and Tito on his resume. And these are the guys you use to discredit shane. That logic escapes me.

(2) You say look at what Oscar did to Mayorga vs what Shane did then say PBF beat oscar handedly? If that's the case Shane beat Oscar more handedly and clearly than Floyd so what's your point?

(3) Lastly, You really believe Cotto is better than Mosely. Where it should be clear that Cotto got the Decision based off him being the young star on the rise with a fight with Tony right behind it. Although the decision was still a toss up and would not have been a problem either way. And then you say Cotto has better timing than Mosley and hits harder? Then explain how Shane Manages to stop the Man that made cotto quit when cotto hit margarito more times than shane? Name one fighter with a granite chin that Cotto has stopped or even clearly hurt..

[Taeth]

When did Mosley beat Oscar more clearly than Mayweather? Which fucking fight? The first one he didn't, the second fight which was a more complete Oscar, he didn't even deserve to win that fight, and was outlanded by a large margin. Also that Mosley isn't the one you see today, both of those versions of him possessed a little more speed, and a little more power, I don't think he was a lot worse, but a little bit worse for sure, even though now he is a little better at dealing with the bigger guys.

Vargas was bigger, but severly weight drained especially in the second fight, and he was way past his prime, which he wasn't when he faced Oscar.

Mayorga was bigger than Oscar also, but Oscar has better punching power, and he is a better boxer than Mosley who is primarily speed.

Are you honestly arguing who has the better timing between SHane Mosley and Cotto? Watch their fight again, it was close but Cotto clearly won, and he was badly outtiming Mosley early.

Against Margarito, SHane wasn't fighting off the ropes like Cotto was, once again watch Mosley-COtto, Miguel was landing the much harder punches between them. Shane also muscled Margarito around, which I said Cotto should have done, he was moving Tony around the few times he clinched him, but Mosley was leaning on Margarito, forcing him backwards and landing big punches while Margarito wasn't.

Explain to me how Floyd sapped the energy out of Baldomir, while Judah and Vernon FOrrest who hit harder couldn't make him lose his spirit. Its because not being able to land punches tires you out way faster than landing shots. Thats why Pavlik got so tired against Hopkins.