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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    If you dont like it, dont watch him.
    That's what people are doing...

    That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    If you dont like it, dont watch him.
    That's what people are doing...

    That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.
    Yea Espn Classic

    Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    That's what people are doing...

    That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.
    Yea Espn Classic

    Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko
    Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.
    Last edited by Hunter; 06-30-2009 at 01:20 PM.

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.
    Yea Espn Classic

    Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko
    Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.
    Setting you Klitheads straight is so easy.

    So tell me dude when was the last time Floyd enjoyed a drastic height, weight, reach and power advantage?

    Not to mention your comparing a fighter from the absolute weakest and unmarketable division, to a fighter who fights within the realms of what has been called a golden era for 140/147

    Class dismissed

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
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    Yea Espn Classic

    Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko
    Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.
    Setting you Klitheads straight is so easy.

    So tell me dude when was the last time Floyd enjoyed a drastic height, weight, reach and power advantage?

    Not to mention your comparing a fighter from the absolute weakest and unmarketable division, to a fighter who fights within the realms of what has been called a golden era for 140/147

    Class dismissed
    - Lets look at Floyd's opposition:

    Ricky Hatton - Floyd had every advantage over hatton, size, speed, reflexes defense, and what does he do? Floyd feints, and plays keep away while pot shotting hatton for 10 rounds

    Baldomir - Floyd had every adavantage over the slow as molasis Baldomir and chose to hang back and just pot shot his way to a decision.

    De La Hoya - Again, Floyd had speed and youth on his side and what does he do? he runs the whole fight....

    I wonder how Floyd will fight Marquez, who again has has a ton of physical advantages? Is he going to go in and try to knock him out? NO - is he going to fight a defensive fight and pot shot......

    Dont dog Wlad for lacking killer instinct when your hero has little if no killer instinct himself.

    This is way too easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.
    Setting you Klitheads straight is so easy.

    So tell me dude when was the last time Floyd enjoyed a drastic height, weight, reach and power advantage?

    Not to mention your comparing a fighter from the absolute weakest and unmarketable division, to a fighter who fights within the realms of what has been called a golden era for 140/147

    Class dismissed
    - Lets look at Floyd's opposition:

    Ricky Hatton - Floyd had every advantage over hatton, size, speed, reflexes defense, and what does he do? Floyd feints, and plays keep away while pot shotting hatton for 10 rounds

    Baldomir - Floyd had every adavantage over the slow as molasis Baldomir and chose to hang back and just pot shot his way to a decision.

    De La Hoya - Again, Floyd had speed and youth on his side and what does he do? he runs the whole fight....

    I wonder how Floyd will fight Marquez, who again has has a ton of physical advantages? Is he going to go in and try to knock him out? NO - is he going to fight a defensive fight and pot shot......

    Dont dog Wlad for lacking killer instinct when your hero has little if no killer instinct himself.

    This is way too easy

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    Really?

    If ignorance is bliss you must be estatic my friend

    Floyd enjoys 3-4 inch height advantages over his opponents

    Floyd enjoys 5in reach advantages?

    Floyd Enjoys 20lb weight advantages over his opponents?

    Not to mention PFP Hatton and Delahoya are leagues above anyone Klit has ever fought!!!!

    Hatton, Delahoya and Baldomir are all naturally bigger men than Floyd...


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    - I am the ignorant one, but based on what you are saying below size is the ultimate adavantage.....hmmmm so if I expand on what you are saying here Wlad would have been a huge favorite over Tyson and Ali cause of his size advantage.......

    Have you seen Ali/Foreman?? You may want to watch it, it disproves your theory that if you are bigger you will win.

    Alot of times larger size is offset by slower speed and stamina issues.....


    Man, this is getting easier and easier....

    Too bad your hero isnt Pac Man cause than I couldnt argue with you cause Pac is a fighter that truely has head and shoulders more killer instinct than Wlad and Floyd.
    Last edited by Hunter; 06-30-2009 at 02:12 PM.

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    Setting you Klitheads straight is so easy.

    So tell me dude when was the last time Floyd enjoyed a drastic height, weight, reach and power advantage?

    Not to mention your comparing a fighter from the absolute weakest and unmarketable division, to a fighter who fights within the realms of what has been called a golden era for 140/147

    Class dismissed
    - Lets look at Floyd's opposition:

    Ricky Hatton - Floyd had every advantage over hatton, size, speed, reflexes defense, and what does he do? Floyd feints, and plays keep away while pot shotting hatton for 10 rounds

    Baldomir - Floyd had every adavantage over the slow as molasis Baldomir and chose to hang back and just pot shot his way to a decision.

    De La Hoya - Again, Floyd had speed and youth on his side and what does he do? he runs the whole fight....

    I wonder how Floyd will fight Marquez, who again has has a ton of physical advantages? Is he going to go in and try to knock him out? NO - is he going to fight a defensive fight and pot shot......

    Dont dog Wlad for lacking killer instinct when your hero has little if no killer instinct himself.

    This is way too easy

    CLASS DISMISSED
    Really?

    If ignorance is bliss you must be estatic my friend

    Floyd enjoys 3-4 inch height advantages over his opponents

    Floyd enjoys 5in reach advantages?

    Floyd Enjoys 20lb weight advantages over his opponents?

    Not to mention PFP Hatton and Delahoya are leagues above anyone Klit has ever fought!!!!

    Hatton, Delahoya and Baldomir are all naturally bigger men than Floyd...

    I'm with ya... Not only is he taller, longer armed, heavier, he is also Floyd Mayweather.... He's not some tall gangly guy who's got his wins by being some freak of size.. He's the best defensive fighter of the last 20 years. He's faster than anyone at Welterweight. He's undefeated and has defeated some decent opponents. He's at his natural weight.

    Size does not always mean a person will win, but to beat Floyd Mayweather, you gotta have at least SOME advantage...

    That's what JT is saying and how can anyone not agree...
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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post

    Arent you a big fan of Floyd Maweather? Talk about paint drying, I would rather watch Wlad than Floyd any day. at least Wald tries to fight the best fighters out there.
    Setting you Klitheads straight is so easy.

    So tell me dude when was the last time Floyd enjoyed a drastic height, weight, reach and power advantage?

    Not to mention your comparing a fighter from the absolute weakest and unmarketable division, to a fighter who fights within the realms of what has been called a golden era for 140/147

    Class dismissed
    - Lets look at Floyd's opposition:

    Ricky Hatton - Floyd had every advantage over hatton, size, speed, reflexes defense, and what does he do? Floyd feints, and plays keep away while pot shotting hatton for 10 rounds

    Baldomir - Floyd had every adavantage over the slow as molasis Baldomir and chose to hang back and just pot shot his way to a decision.

    De La Hoya - Again, Floyd had speed and youth on his side and what does he do? he runs the whole fight....

    I wonder how Floyd will fight Marquez, who again has has a ton of physical advantages? Is he going to go in and try to knock him out? NO - is he going to fight a defensive fight and pot shot......

    Dont dog Wlad for lacking killer instinct when your hero has little if no killer instinct himself.

    This is way too easy

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    Wait... you're serious??

    Floyd actually came into the ring lighter than Hatton, and started his career much lighter. Hatton was a big 140lber, Floyd was considered smaller than average at the weight. He then beat up on Hatton at his own game on the inside, moving in and out drawing him onto the punches. He did not just jab his way away from him. Also almost no one thought Floyd would KO Hatton, but he did.

    Baldomir was a considerably bigger man, and was known for having a great chin. That's not someone you want to get into a slugfest with, however, I will concede that this was in no way an exciting fight.

    Oscar came into the fight at least 15lbs heavier, this was a guy who was considered the best LMW in the world at this point, and Floyd came in and beat him despite being so much smaller. Also only B-Hop had ever actually stopped him with a body shot, so no way was Floyd going to lay him out, not at LMW anyway.

    Also generally when Floyd has fought lower levels of opposition, eg Gatti, Mitchell, Manfredy (all of whom are equivalent of the guys getting taken out by Wlad) he has jumped on them and had them out by at latest the 6 round mark.

    We'll see how he fights JMM before making a judgement on that, just as we will when/if Wlad fight Haye.

    You can't even compare their opposition, the best Wlad has beaten is Chagaev, who as good as he is, is not that much better in talent than say Judah, who Floyd was the same size as. If Chagaev was the same height as Wlad, would he have been so easy to pick off.

    Mayweather has beaten, and in some cases stopped, guys who are a shoe-in for the HoF. I can't think of a single guy Wlad has beaten who will get there.

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    My point is not that Wlad is a hall of fame fighter, but I dont understand how you can dog him for not having killer instinct but than talk about how great Floyd Mayweather and B Hop are. I can understand if you are a fan of Erik Morales, Barrerra or Pac Man, then i can see why you dog Wlad, cause you like guys that go in and try to knock people out. Floyd and B Hop never try and knock people out and for the most part have speed, experience, and skill on their side.

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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post

    That's what people are doing...

    That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.
    Yea Espn Classic

    Bottom line is HBO is the premier Boxing network, if they pass on the #1 and #3 heavy fighting for the ring belt you know synchronized paint drying is more interesting than Wlad Klitschko
    Can't really argue with that, such a big fight that HBO didn't want it even with the date and time slot set, says it all.
    Last edited by Fenster; 06-30-2009 at 01:30 PM.
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    Default Re: I wish Jack Johnson was alive

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    If you dont like it, dont watch him.
    That's what people are doing...

    That's why HBO didn't even bother buying the fight.

    Than why did ESPN pick it up? Wlad sells out fight venues all the time.

    I enjoy watching Wlad dish out punishment on his opponents and wondering how much longer they can keep taking those shots. People complain that Wlad jabs his way to victory but his jab is more powerful than most HWs straight rights/lefts....Wlad has bad fights (Sultan) just like any other fighter but for me the Ruslan fight was pretty good.

    The heavyweight division STINKS period

    You cant blame it on the klitschkos for being too good. The reason heavyweight boxing is in a rut is mainly down to countrys like the US/UK that produce the exciting, powerful guys but just arent bringing them through anymore.

    Since lewis we`ve had sod all other than a brief 15minutes of fame from danny williams and the current overhyping of the showhorse that is david haye.

    America hasnt produce a quality heavyweight for 15 odd years now and ive already made my thoughts on this situation many times over.
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