Why is Mosley ranked higher than Cotto at welterweight?

[boozeboxer]

Mosely should be ranked ahead of Cotto.

1. Margarito (plaster or not) completely broke Cotto down. In fact, it remains to be seen if he will ever recover. The bottom line is Cotto ate a bunch of leather.

2. Mosely put on a clinic against Margarito. Mosely did not get hit much at all.

3. Cotto did beat Mosely. But I wish people would go back and watch that fight. No way in hell was it a blow out and in no way did Cotto dominate. In a rematch I would def wager on Mosely.

4. Mosely has a real record that is very established. Not too many Urangos in recent time with him.

I actually don't think if you had to ask anyone who the man to beat at WW, it would really be that close of a question. Hands down, Sugar Shane is the man.

[Rantcatrat]

Mosely should be ranked ahead of Cotto.

1. Margarito (plaster or not) completely broke Cotto down. In fact, it remains to be seen if he will ever recover. The bottom line is Cotto ate a bunch of leather.

2. Mosely put on a clinic against Margarito. Mosely did not get hit much at all.

3. Cotto did beat Mosely. But I wish people would go back and watch that fight. No way in hell was it a blow out and in no way did Cotto dominate. In a rematch I would def wager on Mosely.

4. Mosely has a real record that is very established. Not too many Urangos in recent time with him.

I actually don't think if you had to ask anyone who the man to beat at WW, it would really be that close of a question. Hands down, Sugar Shane is the man.

Cotto beat Mosley and Cotto beat #3 Clottey. Just these facts merit debate. As an analogy, remember Ring Magazine ranks Donaire ahead of Vic because Donaire beat Vic even though Vic has beat the better competition since that fight, which isn't even the case here.

Cotto's loss to Margarito, at least to an extent, can be chalked up to the fact Margarito was hitting him with bricks. Mosley didn't fight a Margarito with bricks.

We aren't talking about p4p. We are talking about at welterweight. Cotto has beat almost every single top ten welterweight with the exception of Collazo and Berto. Mosley has only beat Collazo.

It is definitely a close call even if Mosley gets the nod.

[kingfrnk]

Mosely should be ranked ahead of Cotto.

1. Margarito (plaster or not) completely broke Cotto down. In fact, it remains to be seen if he will ever recover. The bottom line is Cotto ate a bunch of leather.

2. Mosely put on a clinic against Margarito. Mosely did not get hit much at all.

3. Cotto did beat Mosely. But I wish people would go back and watch that fight. No way in hell was it a blow out and in no way did Cotto dominate. In a rematch I would def wager on Mosely.

4. Mosely has a real record that is very established. Not too many Urangos in recent time with him.

I actually don't think if you had to ask anyone who the man to beat at WW, it would really be that close of a question. Hands down, Sugar Shane is the man.

Cotto beat Mosley and Cotto beat #3 Clottey. Just these facts merit debate. As an analogy, remember Ring Magazine ranks Donaire ahead of Vic because Donaire beat Vic even though Vic has beat the better competition since that fight, which isn't even the case here.

Cotto's loss to Margarito, at least to an extent, can be chalked up to the fact Margarito was hitting him with bricks. Mosley didn't fight a Margarito with bricks.

We aren't talking about p4p. We are talking about at welterweight. Cotto has beat almost every single top ten welterweight with the exception of Collazo and Berto. Mosley has only beat Collazo.

It is definitely a close call even if Mosley gets the nod.

agree with all of it. especailly the words in bold. Cotto has taken all of the toughest fights at welter and no else has done this. i dont see how anybody cant be a fan of Cotto he takes on the toughest fights possible. im pretty sure if Paul Williams was still at 147 Cotto would be the only one who has the balls to take him on. anyways i think its pretty close but i would probably have shane 1st. but thats only because Margacheato beat Cotto (which is a questionable win now ) who was the #1 welter then Mosley beat Margacheato who was the #1 welter.

IMO shane and cotto should fight for the ring welterweight title

[Kev]

Mosely should be ranked ahead of Cotto.

1. Margarito (plaster or not) completely broke Cotto down. In fact, it remains to be seen if he will ever recover. The bottom line is Cotto ate a bunch of leather.

2. Mosely put on a clinic against Margarito. Mosely did not get hit much at all.

3. Cotto did beat Mosely. But I wish people would go back and watch that fight. No way in hell was it a blow out and in no way did Cotto dominate. In a rematch I would def wager on Mosely.

4. Mosely has a real record that is very established. Not too many Urangos in recent time with him.

I actually don't think if you had to ask anyone who the man to beat at WW, it would really be that close of a question. Hands down, Sugar Shane is the man.

Cotto beat Mosley and Cotto beat #3 Clottey. Just these facts merit debate. As an analogy, remember Ring Magazine ranks Donaire ahead of Vic because Donaire beat Vic even though Vic has beat the better competition since that fight, which isn't even the case here.

Cotto's loss to Margarito, at least to an extent, can be chalked up to the fact Margarito was hitting him with bricks. Mosley didn't fight a Margarito with bricks.

We aren't talking about p4p. We are talking about at welterweight. Cotto has beat almost every single top ten welterweight with the exception of Collazo and Berto. Mosley has only beat Collazo.

It is definitely a close call even if Mosley gets the nod.

I agree completely that the Ring is contradicting itself here.

Personally I agree that Mosely should be number 1 because in knocking out Margarito he basically beat the man in the division. Ok so Mosely lost a close decision to Cotto, but Cotto was ktfo by Margarito and which at best puts Mosely and Cotto level and I think Mosely's career record and recent wins have been more impressive than Cotto so he deserves to be number 1 ahead of Cotto.

What annoys me though is that the Ring in a complete contradiciton rate Nonito Donaire above Darchinyan which is a total farce imo. Donaire has only ever faced a single world class opponent, and Darchinyan aside has never fought a world champion past or present. His resume apart from Vic is mediocre at best and the win over Darchinyan is mainly seen as a great win because of what Darchinyan has gone on to achieve AFTER losing to Donaire.

In a frankly ludicrously bizarre decision Donaire has had Darchinyan's wins over Arce and Mijares added to HIS resume which is ridiculous beyond belief.

Following that logic Chad Dawson should be top 10 p4p without question seeing as he beat Adamek who went on to beat O Neil Bell and Steve Cunningham and become the Ring champ at cruiserweight and thus a two weight world champ like Darchinyan.

It's a really weird twist of logic that you have Donaire above Darchinyan because he beat Darchinyan BEFORE he went on to acomplish the great things in his career yet they don't apply that logic to other fighters.

Williams and Dawson, probably Pavlik, Kessler, Haye, Wlad should all be above Donaire along with maybe guys like Juan Guzman.

Even Tim Bradely is a two time world champ which is double the acomplishments of Donaire.

Never has a man been rated so highly for achieving so little as Nonito Donaire.

Sorry to change the thread into a Nonito rant but it really grates me