Would Juan Manuel Marquez's Brother Have Done Better Against Manny Pacquiao P4P ?

[The Congressman]

At 122? No. I don't think so.

[Taeth]

Why? He has a worse chin, he's smaller, slower, and IMO not quite as good technically. Even though Rafael has the better jab, his cross which IMO is more important isn't as good.

[No Contest]

No it would be over alot quicker , Rafael would get into a slugfest and knocked out. He always gets dragged into brawls when he should really be boxing.

[Violent Demise]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

[Taeth]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

What the hell have you been smoking? Rafael's right is not the best in boxing, its not as good as Juan Manuel's. Floyd Mayweather, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Pavlik, David Haye, Wladimir when he uses it all have better crosses. Rafael is a great left handed fighter, but his right isn't all that, and if he traded with Pacquiao, its him not Pacquiao who has durability issues, and its Pacquiao who hits harder than Rafael at 122 p4p.

[Bilbo's Mom]

I agree with Taeth, it would have been a great fight but Raphael is more vulnurable both in getting hit and punch resistance than Juan Manuel.

Manny definitely wouldn't have had an easy night with him though had they fought a few years back at maybe featherweight or super bantam.

I think the only guys in recent years who could beat a prime Manny at superfeatherweight are Juan Manuel Marquez and Floyd Mayweather.

Marquez was never really beaten by Manny, both their fights could have gone either way but neither fighter proved superiority over each other.

[reinvaldez]

Well, there's only one answer to this rumor. Let them see each other on rings. OK.

[Violent Demise]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

What the hell have you been smoking? Rafael's right is not the best in boxing, its not as good as Juan Manuel's. Floyd Mayweather, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Pavlik, David Haye, Wladimir when he uses it all have better crosses. Rafael is a great left handed fighter, but his right isn't all that, and if he traded with Pacquiao, its him not Pacquiao who has durability issues, and its Pacquiao who hits harder than Rafael at 122 p4p.

What durability issues? He's been stopped once in recent years. And that was clearly a pre-mature stoppage against a p4p fighter. The losses early in his career can't be used against him cuz he's not the same fighter. Just like Pacquiao's early stoppage losses can't be used against him. Rafael can be hurt. I'm not saying he has the greatest chin. But to say he's not durable is typical stupidity coming from you. To say Rafael's right hand ain't all that shows how big of an idiot you really are. Pacquiao has looked greatly lately. But that's cuz he's been facing fighters incapable of hitting him. But if you hit him you can hurt him. Rafael would hit him. And he would hurt him.

[Taeth]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

What the hell have you been smoking? Rafael's right is not the best in boxing, its not as good as Juan Manuel's. Floyd Mayweather, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Pavlik, David Haye, Wladimir when he uses it all have better crosses. Rafael is a great left handed fighter, but his right isn't all that, and if he traded with Pacquiao, its him not Pacquiao who has durability issues, and its Pacquiao who hits harder than Rafael at 122 p4p.

What durability issues? He's been stopped once in recent years. And that was clearly a pre-mature stoppage against a p4p fighter. The losses early in his career can't be used against him cuz he's not the same fighter. Just like Pacquiao's early stoppage losses can't be used against him. Rafael can be hurt. I'm not saying he has the greatest chin. But to say he's not durable is typical stupidity coming from you. To say Rafael's right hand ain't all that shows how big of an idiot you really are. Pacquiao has looked greatly lately. But that's cuz he's been facing fighters incapable of hitting him. But if you hit him you can hurt him. Rafael would hit him. And he would hurt him.

Watch Pacquiao-Marquez 1 or Pacquiao-Morales 1, he moved to face Morales and he took a ton of punches, but still kept on coming.

Also Marquez was 23 when Mataeos ko'ed him. And he was 25 when Genaro Garcia ko'ed him. Pacquiao was 18 and 20 when he was ko'ed and at 20 he was badly weight drained.

Also I didn't say Rafael didn't have a good right cross, just that it isn't the best in the sport, and you saying that shows that you are 10x stupider than I am. Manny hasn't looked just great lately, he's looked good for years. Rafael Marquez is also an excellent fighter, but he is a poor second to his brother, besides p4p power, he's not as good of a pure boxer, not as fast, not as good at counter punching, doesn't have the same quality of chin. He's a slightly lesser fighter than his brother Juan Manuel Marquez, thats nothing to be ashamed of. However, his chin, his average defensive skills wouldn't be enough to hold Pacquiao at bay, I think it would be a great fight but around rounds 9-11 Pacquiao would stop him.

[mad_takamura]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

What the hell have you been smoking? Rafael's right is not the best in boxing, its not as good as Juan Manuel's. Floyd Mayweather, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Pavlik, David Haye, Wladimir when he uses it all have better crosses. Rafael is a great left handed fighter, but his right isn't all that, and if he traded with Pacquiao, its him not Pacquiao who has durability issues, and its Pacquiao who hits harder than Rafael at 122 p4p.

What durability issues? He's been stopped once in recent years. And that was clearly a pre-mature stoppage against a p4p fighter. The losses early in his career can't be used against him cuz he's not the same fighter. Just like Pacquiao's early stoppage losses can't be used against him. Rafael can be hurt. I'm not saying he has the greatest chin. But to say he's not durable is typical stupidity coming from you. To say Rafael's right hand ain't all that shows how big of an idiot you really are. Pacquiao has looked greatly lately. But that's cuz he's been facing fighters incapable of hitting him. But if you hit him you can hurt him. Rafael would hit him. And he would hurt him.

the p4p fighter you're mentioning is izzy vasquez and to tell you as a matter of factly izzy is the former sparring mate of manny! at that level since he was the sparring partner of manny, and since he ko'ed rafa, then pac could also do it if not more easily.

it's not really power that can beat manny if ever they met at that same weight back then. it's intelligence. jmm made a fight out of manny because he studied manny's moves, seen the right angles etc. and countered him brilliantly.in short he did it with brains and what is more impressive was he did it under pressure. rafa is not as smart as his brother. imo under pressure just like what happened to the izzy fight, and considering manny as more agressive, and in fact more powerful in the 122pnds than izzy, it's him who will get ktfo not manny! vd i thought you know your idols well? it seems it's your blind nuthuggery that keep stretching the facts huh?

rafa is indeed durable. if you studied his demeanor and compared it to jmm kd (pac-jmm 1)to rafa kd or tko by izzy, rafa looks more disoriented than jmm. his legs were wobbly, his face red, his eyes is not there, you're even lucky the referee stopped the fight or he could have suffered serious damage! jmm in that fight which was called a draw, stood up and iv'e seen his legs not wobbly unlike his brother. taeth was right rafa really have a suspect jaw1 it seems facing power punchers there is a good chance rafa will get ktfo!

plus all the tko loss of pac happened due to body shots. he did get kd before, but it's you who said that that was the past and pac is not the same fighter anymore. saying rafa will ko pac with his right hand is like saying he should be ranked higher than his brother p4p! you gotta be an illusionist!

[mad_takamura]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

this is a noobish post from someone who is a veteran in saddo.

[Violent Demise]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

this is a noobish post from someone who is a veteran in saddo.

Even in alt mode you post garbage. Pound for pound Rafael does hit harder than Juan. It's the reason is KO% is higher. Hell, Juan himself said his brother hits harder.

And Pac is and will always be a sucker for the right hand. Provided he's fighting someone capable of actually hitting him

[mad_takamura]

Pound for pound Rafael hits harder than Juan. If Pacquiao were to trade with him, Pacquiao would get knocked out. Pacquiao has always been a sucker for the right hand. Rafael's right is the best in Boxing.

this is a noobish post from someone who is a veteran in saddo.

Even in alt mode you post garbage. Pound for pound Rafael does hit harder than Juan. It's the reason is KO% is higher. Hell, Juan himself said his brother hits harder.

And Pac is and will always be a sucker for the right hand. Provided he's fighting someone capable of actually hitting him

he's just saying his brother hits harder than him to boost rafa's market value. he ain't as popular as jmm! and to say his ko% is higher that's because most of his opponents are class-d, class-c fighters! you know the valero resume right? you can only count to your right hand respectable fighters rafa faced!
so what if i type in alt. want me to type like you? this ain't typing class sir!