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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    While that COULD have happened, there was no point in time in his career where Wladimir wasn't an accurate and powerful puncher...and honestly nobody knows how Roy would have handled a power punch from any heavyweight, much less a guy with power like Wladimir.

    Roy would have tried to use angles and speed but hell that's what Chris Byrd tried to do 2 times vs Wladimir and both times he failed to bother Wlad.

    Roy would have had easier times with Evander and Tyson mainly because they were older and not what they used to be.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Roy loved his trinkets and I think the politics would keep him from meeting fellow champs.Probally at first go the route of defending a beatable but visable lower tier guy.Maybe a ranked Joe Mesi and then look for an aged Holyfield...and I dont think that would be a given.Would have been interesting to see how that weight would have stayed on Jones,through a training camp etc.Think the quicker sorts...like an Oquendo might have given him probs.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Quite possibly, he would have won a few more fights and then retire instead of his disasterous weight loss which resulted in disaster for him. I always thought he could beat an aged Tyson with his in and out movement.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    While that COULD have happened, there was no point in time in his career where Wladimir wasn't an accurate and powerful puncher...and honestly nobody knows how Roy would have handled a power punch from any heavyweight, much less a guy with power like Wladimir.

    Roy would have tried to use angles and speed but hell that's what Chris Byrd tried to do 2 times vs Wladimir and both times he failed to bother Wlad.

    Roy would have had easier times with Evander and Tyson mainly because they were older and not what they used to be.
    Agreed. Roy would never be able to stop any of the 2 brothers while at HW, at any point in time. For one he was 34 years old when he was fighting at HW at this time and did not possess the handspeed at this weight and age. And as you mentioned, could he take a hit from a good HW?

    Wlad was not the fighter he is now, but a 2003 Wlad was no scrub.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Roy was a great fighter his skills were second to none in his prime but at heavyweight he never proved much he beat Ruiz which doesnt prove much.I think he relized it would be suicidal if he fought the big men in the division.He would'nt have the power to stop them he might of got the first few rounds with his speed but he would get caught sooner or later and gets ko'ed.

    Instead he moved back down and got ko'ed by Tarver.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Remember Roy wanted 100 million to fight Lennox but against Tyson he had a realistic shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Remember Roy wanted 100 million to fight Lennox but against Tyson he had a realistic shot.
    I'am not sure if he had a shot at an ageing Tyson.I dont think Jones would of been able to discourage Tyson with his punches although Mike didnt like taking shots i just dont think Jones would hurt him and Tyson would of hit him in the end and hurt him and stop him.

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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Remember Roy wanted 100 million to fight Lennox but against Tyson he had a realistic shot.
    I'am not sure if he had a shot at an ageing Tyson.I dont think Jones would of been able to discourage Tyson with his punches although Mike didnt like taking shots i just dont think Jones would hurt him and Tyson would of hit him in the end and hurt him and stop him.
    Yes Tyson could have done a Glenn Johnson on him.
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    Default Re: WHAT IF...Roy Jones had stayed at heavyweight?

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    While that COULD have happened, there was no point in time in his career where Wladimir wasn't an accurate and powerful puncher...and honestly nobody knows how Roy would have handled a power punch from any heavyweight, much less a guy with power like Wladimir.

    Roy would have tried to use angles and speed but hell that's what Chris Byrd tried to do 2 times vs Wladimir and both times he failed to bother Wlad.

    Roy would have had easier times with Evander and Tyson mainly because they were older and not what they used to be.
    Agreed. Roy would never be able to stop any of the 2 brothers while at HW, at any point in time. For one he was 34 years old when he was fighting at HW at this time and did not possess the handspeed at this weight and age. And as you mentioned, could he take a hit from a good HW?

    Wlad was not the fighter he is now, but a 2003 Wlad was no scrub.
    his speed was still incredible i thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    [his speed was still incredible i thought
    I think the biggest issue for Roy at heavyweight is that the jumping in and out of the danger zone the way he did at lighter weights would have been more dangerous and less effective vs the bigger heavyweights as Roy would have to jump in from waaaaay far away and then get in really close to avoid punishment.

    Roy would have been a heavyweight like Bob Foster, it wouldn't have been long before Roy got caught.

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