Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles

[VictorCharlie]

partisan politics aside, it seems quite often people/media can't differentiate between policy and philosophical differences and personal feelings.

[CGM]

not to rehash the campaign but I don't see how one can say that the current president is or was capable of leading a nation.

Whatever, I wan't intending to debate about Obama, or left vs right, my observations were just about one moron, but if you want to compare her favorably to Obama, I'm sure you'll find Lyle will agree with you.

Lyle's agreement is important why? The left likes to paint this woman as stupid. You seem to agree. Why do you think she is stupid is all I am asking? She is often described as not having the experience required to be a viable presidential candidate. I just don't see the difference between a one term senator and one term governor other than one of them actually has at least some executive experience.

Ok forget Lyle's agreement. I'd say it's more than just the left that questions her smarts. And I hadn't questioned experience, I was questioning her intelligence. I'd some say there are some things no amount of experience would compensate for, and she's a prime example. And it's got nothing to do with her being on the right. Like I said, if she was running on the left I'd still say she was a moron. But if you want to disagree agree about my assessment of her brains and leadership qualities, that's just fine.

[CGM]

partisan politics aside, it seems quite often people/media can't differentiate between policy and philosophical differences and personal feelings.

speak for yourself dude! You're the one who's turning this into a discussion about politics.

[VictorCharlie]

I am pretty sure it is a political thread by nature considering the OP. People rail against Palin all the time in regards to policy and refer to her as stupid. I just don't understand the hatred this person initiates. Why hate someone b/c they disagree with you? Why is someone stupid b/c they don't follow your idealogy? If this doesn't apply to you than disregard but it describes some of the above posters. You say this isn't the case with you specifically yet you don't really seem to be able to articulate your dislike for her in specifics.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Missy, that's all well and good that you want to compare and contrast energy prices in England and America BUT you guys voted for that, you guys have year after year gone on and on about Man Made Global Warming (which is total crap by the way) and you guys have voted for higher taxes and higher prices on yourselves....Americans in general don't like taxes and they don't like not getting their money's worth on simple stuff like electricity and gasoline....Wars have been fought over such things.

No matter who is in office, no matter what party runs the country, the United States is a Center Right country, we love our LIBERTY and our Freedom, and we don't like taxes

Actually we haven't but don't let that stop you.

From my few visits to the US I'd say they like to consider themselves as open minded and fair but on the whole they're mostly conservative scardy cats.

[CGM]

I am pretty sure it is a political thread by nature considering the OP. People rail against Palin all the time in regards to policy and refer to her as stupid. I just don't understand the hatred this person initiates. Why hate someone b/c they disagree with you? Why is someone stupid b/c they don't follow your idealogy? If this doesn't apply to you than disregard but it describes some of the above posters. You say this isn't the case with you specifically yet you don't really seem to be able to articulate your dislike for her in specifics.

considering the OP? LOL. Meaning you consider me prone to making confusing personal feelings with politics? No doubt you consider yourself above that kind of thing. Ok dude, if you want to dispute my position by using Ad Hominem, suit yourself. Yes, I disagree with her policy, and I consider he stupid. Satisified? I already said I'd still be dismissing her if she was a democrat, well there ain't too much I can say. And if I were only dismissing her because she was a far right republican, then I'd have to do the same for all republicans wouldn't I. But I'm not dismissing al republicans. Ok well now I look at the last point and you are saying "if this doesn't apply to me then disregard?" You mean you can't decide that for yourself. You were responding to my posts were you not? Or was that just co-incidence? And no, I don't feel like getting into a debate with you about why exactly she is stupid and/or incapable. If you haven't reached that conclusion already, then you are not likely to be convinced by anything I say.

p.s. OP means original poster does it not? if not disregard my first comment. And just because this thread is about her abilities as a politician, that doesn't mean my OP (original post) was motivated by political ideology.

[VictorCharlie]

Somebody shit in your cheerios this morning CGM? Kind of billigerant today. The OP (original post) pretty much makes this a political thread as I said, while Lyle in only the way he can made it a partisan thread. You continue to bring up republicans/democrats as well. I wanted to redirect back to my first post. Why do people so strongly dislike Palin? Quite often I hear a lot of name calling but little substance as to why the hatred.

[El Kabong]

She was running for VICE President not President...and I find it very hypocritical that the very same people who support Obama (and therefore support the likes of Joe Biden) call out Palin as an idiot.

I was talking about what she might be intending to do, not what she did do, but ok I'll bite. I'd say that someone who runs for vice president should have some ability to lead the country, wouldn't you?

And your remarks about hypocrisy aren't worth much. Anyone who calls Palin an idiot but supports Obama is a hypocrite? By your logic, I'm sure I can create an argument that says we're all hypocrites.

Guess what, I never said all dems were above reproach, but i knew damn well that as soon as I dared criticize brainiac Palin, you'd turn it into left vs. right. Guess what, I'd be just as horrified if she ended up running for president as a democrat, although I'm sure you'd be quite pleased. Get my drift?

Obviously you have no idea who Joe Biden is and he IS the Vice President....he's also a fucking moron, but he was riding Obama's coat tails so that makes it ok because Obama is perfect in every way and it's that kind of mentality that makes me wait for the day he and his administration gets SLAMMED with controversy and corruption.

I'm not a Palin fan, I don't like her all that much although I do admit she's important to the Republican Party, all I said to begin with was and I quote "The reason the Republicans love her so much is because she's hated and feared by the left" is that not a bipartisan post good sir Sarah Palin is a rallying cry for Republicans, she may not be the greatest BUT she's effective (moreso than anyone else it seems) in mobilizing the core of the party and given the current political landscape that is very important.

Missy, what are conservatives scared of? If it's taxes we're not scared so much as pissed off considering how such money is spent.

[El Kabong]

Now let's not go blaming me for making this a partisan thread, my original post was just an attempt to explain Palin's popularity. Also me comparing Palin to Joe Biden was only to show that whilst the Democrats were calling Palin "dumb" and "inexperienced" they went ahead and voted for the "Inexperienced and Dumb" ticket Obama 1 term Senator and Joe Biden who might be slightly retarded

[El Kabong]

This is my first post in this thread...

I can speak as a Conservative, I think people on my political side like her simply because the Democrats/Liberals hate her or are scared of her.

I would rather Romney or Huckabee or Bobby Jindal get the nomination for 2012

...now is that partisan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSYipouABI

[VictorCharlie]

Lyle you are a good test case for the other side of the coin. You are diametrically opposed to our president on almost all issues, but would you say that you personally hate/dislike him? Mind you, put aside the the hate for his media portrayal.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm still hopeful my Sarah Palin burka fantasy comes true.

[Kirkland Laing]

He's Obama, how dare you even think to question him!!!!

But while we're at it, I just want to know how this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4is "Progressive"

Obama is an improvement on the Bush years. But I agree that he isn't quite the saviour some have built him up as. Early days yet though, time will tell.

So says you, but I doubt the Americans will be so elated when they have sky high energy prices (yes even for the very poor whom Obama had promised to help) and there is talk of a Value Added Tax, so I guess that "Tax cuts for 95% of citizens" was said just because it sounded cool...sounds like a fun 4 years huh? And the guy JUST took office. At this rate, I'd rather have Sarkozy be our President than anyone else.

If anyone forgot why they were labeled "Tax and Spend Democrats" or the "Spendacrats" Obama is here to remind them....not that Bush was a great fiscal conservative either, but Obama is making him look like one now

[Kirkland Laing]

And don't forget Clinton inherited the biggest budget deficit in history from Bush 43's dad.

[LEGION]

"Aaaannd they're off"......