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    I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.

    Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.

    I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
    Every GOP leader veers from traditional conservative policy. Any GOP candidate standing on a traditional conservative platform would be completely unelectable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.

    Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.

    I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
    Every GOP leader veers from traditional conservative policy. Any GOP candidate standing on a traditional conservative platform would be completely unelectable.
    You base this on what?
    Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles

    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
    I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.

    Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.

    I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
    Every GOP leader veers from traditional conservative policy. Any GOP candidate standing on a traditional conservative platform would be completely unelectable.
    You base this on what?
    Here are the main points of a traditional conservative election platform, a recent Texas GOP party platform :




    You've got your culture war stuff and your small government stuff right there. The culture war stuff, treating gays like child molesters, criminalising gay sex, ending all abortion is going to turn half the country off. But the small government stuff is the real problem. No GOP politician runs on a platform of ending Medicare, Social Security, the Department of Education etc. There's just no way they can get elected like that. They nod to the culture war stuff, bash gay marriage or whatever is getting their base upset at that time, but they never ever take a stand against the big government programmes because they're popular with voters so they all run supporting those programmes.

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