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    Default Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?

    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......

    I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......

    I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens
    Look forward to that Daxx. I just think of the trouble Zab gave him with speed alone, then once you add more angles and more heart into the mix......does Floyd really want it? Maybe he will need it? Thank f*ck he has money issues, that's all I say lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
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    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......

    I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens
    You can call me crazy and a fanboy, but as much as Roach is smart SO IS FLOYD, HIS UNCLE AND HIS FATHER. We all know what Floyd is capable and I dont see him getting on a bike and running, Floyd has the offense, defense footwork and stamina to put it on Mannny. Im not saying its going to be a walk over but I see him cutting up Manny and comprehensively beating him.

    they say timing negates speed, what about when 1 fighter is a fast superb counterpuncher with spot on anticipation and timing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......

    I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens
    You can call me crazy and a fanboy, but as much as Roach is smart SO IS FLOYD, HIS UNCLE AND HIS FATHER. We all know what Floyd is capable and I dont see him getting on a bike and running, Floyd has the offense, defense footwork and stamina to put it on Mannny. Im not saying its going to be a walk over but I see him cutting up Manny and comprehensively beating him.

    they say timing negates speed, what about when 1 fighter is a fast superb counterpuncher with spot on anticipation and timing?

    Personally I can not pick a winner it is a fight we will have to see before knowing the answer...it is a pickem....

    Floyd has not been beaten yet and really has not been away from boxing that long so in truth he is still prime.....

    Manny on the other hand seems to be like a mini phenom.....so much to work on yet he always seems to fix anything that seems to be a weakness.....I agree with the fact the Mayweathers are smart trainers amd fighter but the combo of Freddie and Manny seem to be a perfect team at the moment.....

    I really think the Marquez fight will tell us a lot

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    Default Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?

    Great article Daxx.

    Floyd wanted a second Oscar fight but Oscar wouldn't give him the percentage of the purse he thought he was due so he decided to retire, at least temporarily. If he had a ton of money in the bank and was capable of living off the interest I don't think he'd be coming back but it looks like he's potless already and doesn't have a choice if he wants to maintain his current lifestyle. Long term he's going to keep coming back for big fights, blowing the dough and doing it again till he gets beat, then maybe even continuing to fight for smaller purses, long term things don't look good for him unless he can radically change his spending habits. But at least this first fight will be interesting seeing what he's got left.

    Hopefully he isn't broke and those rumours about him taking time out to recover from hand problems are true and he's been in the gym keeping fit for the last year and a half and will come back at the same level he left. We get to find out in September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post

    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......

    I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens
    You can call me crazy and a fanboy, but as much as Roach is smart SO IS FLOYD, HIS UNCLE AND HIS FATHER. We all know what Floyd is capable and I dont see him getting on a bike and running, Floyd has the offense, defense footwork and stamina to put it on Mannny. Im not saying its going to be a walk over but I see him cutting up Manny and comprehensively beating him.

    they say timing negates speed, what about when 1 fighter is a fast superb counterpuncher with spot on anticipation and timing?
    Im with you on this. Floyds timing is precise both in and out of the ring regarding competition placment / counter timing. Also which angles, which speed, which fight, when and how as well as the controversial: which opposition, only when its best for him ploy too. Hope he is aiming high and in threes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Marquez is totally untested at higher weights, at his age I doubt he can mirror what Manny has done and be as effective (hope he is though). If Manny beat Cotto I doubt Floyd would touch him with two bargepoles taped together

    I think Floyd will demand too much cash if the Pac fight was presented to him. Either that or a slight muffled sound from the crack of his arse saying "He has lost 3 fights why should I fight him"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
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    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    Marquez is totally untested at higher weights, at his age I doubt he can mirror what Manny has done and be as effective (hope he is though). If Manny beat Cotto I doubt Floyd would touch him with two bargepoles taped together

    I think Floyd will demand too much cash if the Pac fight was presented to him. Either that or a slight muffled sound from the crack of his arse saying "He has lost 3 fights why should I fight him"
    Personally I think Floyd would rather fight Manny and Cotto before he fought Mosley right now.....

    I agree I don't think Marquez could move up any higher in weight at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

    But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
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    Awesome read Daxx.Going to hold off on the Manny/Mayweather hoopla....a few bridges to cross and something tells me the negotiations could be as entertaining as the fight

    I just cannot escape the feeling that Floyd has .....in a way let momentum and it pass him by.Can't pin point it but he may have miscalculated.Do believe that a big factor in his coming back is Mannys new found p4p pedestal and the glaring spotlight.And the all mighty dollar goes without saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    Cracking article Daxx!

    I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best
    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

    But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
    Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

    His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
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    I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
    For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

    But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
    Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

    His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
    Different engine in this car all together brother. Naz was a SUPER mouthy gifted athlete who couldnt hold a candle to Floyds resume. Naz was a flawed fighter who got exposed by a great tactician.

    Floyd is a superior fighter compared to Naz. Floyd has never showed a chink in his armor or any vulnerability. Whole different mindset goes with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

    But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
    Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

    His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
    Different engine in this car all together brother. Naz was a SUPER mouthy gifted athlete who couldnt hold a candle to Floyds resume. Naz was a flawed fighter who got exposed by a great tactician.

    Floyd is a superior fighter compared to Naz. Floyd has never showed a chink in his armor or any vulnerability. Whole different mindset goes with that
    Yeah but........ok bad example with Naz I may have been breathing in someones crack fumes there

    Thing is, I would still say a loss would do his ego no good and he would struggle to come back from one. Cotto or Shane would have been a bigger fight though and a great win over a top Welter is something he needs IMO

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