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    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    As it stands right now, which of these two ranks higher all time?
    Ricky Hatton but i felt Fernando Vargas was actually P4P a better fighter, its just his career was rushed and he never quite recovered from the Felix Trinidad fight.

    Fernando Vargas showed in his fights with Ike Quartey, Winky Wright, he was elite. Especially in the Ike Quartey fight he is the only fighter, to have ever beaten Ike Quartey convincingly IMO, forgetting Ike Quartey vs Winky Wright because that fight should of never happened, and i thought Fernando Vargas earned a draw against a very good Winky Wright.

    He's also the youngest Jr Middleweight champion in history i believe, so he was obviously elite its just a shame he was rushed into a fight with Felix Trinidad. Which he wasn't quite ready for, but mind you i feel he may of stopped Felix Trinidad in the 4th round, had Felix Trinidad not threw a very controversial low blow. That gave him time to recover, but we will never know.
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

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    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    As it stands right now, which of these two ranks higher all time?
    Ricky Hatton but i felt Fernando Vargas was actually P4P a better fighter, its just his career was rushed and he never quite recovered from the Felix Trinidad fight.

    Fernando Vargas showed in his fights with Ike Quartey, Winky Wright, he was elite. Especially in the Ike Quartey fight he is the only fighter, to have ever beaten Ike Quartey convincingly IMO, forgetting Ike Quartey vs Winky Wright because that fight should of never happened, and i thought Fernando Vargas earned a draw against a very good Winky Wright.

    He's also the youngest Jr Middleweight champion in history i believe, so he was obviously elite its just a shame he was rushed into a fight with Felix Trinidad. Which he wasn't quite ready for, but mind you i feel he may of stopped Felix Trinidad in the 4th round, had Felix Trinidad not threw a very controversial low blow. That gave him time to recover, but we will never know.
    i have to agree with u ice, hatton has the better record on paper but i feel vargas on his prime was a better pound for pound fighter, i think it comes down to management, maybe hattons career was guided better, vargas was definately up there, he gave a prime de la hoya all he could handle till the stoppage, then uve got winky and quartey.maybe vargas was rushed a little, i still remember the trinindad fight what a fight it was, i have to say this is a different but good thread.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.
    that says it all about vargas and his downfall vd

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Tough one, Hatton will no doubt be above Vargas in many peoples minds but Vargas fought some of the best fighters in recent years and as mentioned never got totally battered at world level he made for some cracking competitive fights.

    I would have to say Vargas even though he was rushed and ruined.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    I'm thinking about going with Vargas too. LOL that was quick. I don't know, I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it. Its not a clear decision either way, they're pretty close.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    IMO its vargas. when he fought the big names he put up a good fight. hatton got blown out by Pac and outboxed and kod by floyd. Vargas gave Tito, Winky, Oscar, and Mosley tough fights.
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    I'm gonna go with Vargas. His title run at IBF JMW ranks better than Hatton's run at JWW in terms of overall quality of opposition, and he fought significantly more top tier opponents.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Hatton. Although I think if Vargas' career had been managed better, I'd be saying Vargas.

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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Vargas took better opposition an beat some of them and put up a good fight with he ones he lost to the only good opposition Hatton had he lost to.
    Vargas.
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Peter Buckely fought some great opposition too, but like Vargas he didn't beat them

    How many really good wins did he have? Quartey and ?

    All that said, I do think he was more talented than Hatton, just not as well managed
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.


    LOL!!


    I would lean towards Vargas.
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    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.
    Same as Barerra and JCC then
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    Default Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas

    very close but i think vargas,hatton spent to much time fighting nobodys for the wbu tittle

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Vargas. Easily. He was fighting big names in his 14th fight. Took Hatton 39.
    Same as Barerra and JCC then
    Yea but to be fair MAB started boxing at 15 didn't he ? and 28 of his fights were when he was under 20.

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