I'm thinking about going with Vargas too. LOL that was quick. I don't know, I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it. Its not a clear decision either way, they're pretty close.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
I'm thinking about going with Vargas too. LOL that was quick. I don't know, I haven't put a whole lot of thought into it. Its not a clear decision either way, they're pretty close.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
IMO its vargas. when he fought the big names he put up a good fight. hatton got blown out by Pac and outboxed and kod by floyd. Vargas gave Tito, Winky, Oscar, and Mosley tough fights.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
I'm gonna go with Vargas. His title run at IBF JMW ranks better than Hatton's run at JWW in terms of overall quality of opposition, and he fought significantly more top tier opponents.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
Hatton. Although I think if Vargas' career had been managed better, I'd be saying Vargas.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
Vargas took better opposition an beat some of them and put up a good fight with he ones he lost to the only good opposition Hatton had he lost to.
Vargas.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
Peter Buckely fought some great opposition too, but like Vargas he didn't beat them
How many really good wins did he have? Quartey and?
All that said, I do think he was more talented than Hatton, just not as well managed
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
Winky Wright, Javier Castillejo, Raul Marquez, Yory Boy Campas....those guys are a lot better than whoever Ricky beat
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You've convinced me. I have to go with Vargas.Originally Posted by Lyle
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Vargas, by quality of opposition.
Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
Not only that but he had very quality fights vs De la Hoya and Trinidad, it's not like he ever got totally smoked by somebody. Tito nearly took him out in the first but he fought back in a very capable manner and won his fair share of rounds in that fight. Sure he was lackluster vs Mosley and Mayorga but at the end of the day it was because like Ricky, Fernando liked to eat a bit and that and his lack of style after he fell in love with his power took it's toll on him.
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Re: Who Ranks Higher All Time, Ricky Hatton or Fernando Vargas
None of them are better than Tszyu (but of course he was shot)
Winky beat him clearly imo
Don't know why I'm arguing I think Vargas was better. I'm just not sure his legacy will be
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