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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    It's Hayemaker time!

    Haye KO 6.
    Not a prayer. Vitali will win this. I'm gutted really, because I honestly believed that if Haye fought Wladimir, he'd knock him out. But Vitali won't drop and is likely to land enough significant blows to end it. As much as I appreciate what Setanta brought to the sport in the UK, I am so pissed they ruined the Wlad fight.

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    David Haye by TKO due to Vitali Klitschko not being able to continue based on injuries

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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    It's Hayemaker time!

    Haye KO 6.
    Not a prayer. Vitali will win this. I'm gutted really, because I honestly believed that if Haye fought Wladimir, he'd knock him out. But Vitali won't drop and is likely to land enough significant blows to end it. As much as I appreciate what Setanta brought to the sport in the UK, I am so pissed they ruined the Wlad fight.
    i agree, i thought haye would have wlads number, but vitali is another kettle of fish all together, i always give haye a chance with his power tho, give him his due hes one seriously brave dude. can only see a vitali ko in this one, but stranger things have happened in boxing
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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    I think it mite go very similar to how Vitali - Herbie Hide went.Haye is a small heavyweigh with speed and power much like Hide and get ko ktfo in 2rounds.I do see Haye lasting abit longer.

    I do live in hope that Haye can use his speed to dash in and out of range with out been hit by Vitalis sledgehammers.

    If Haye wins how much credit would he get? I would give him all the credit in the world. going after the most dangerous fighter in the division and getting the win.Iam sure some people would just say Vitali has aged and has only fought once in the last few years.

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    I think people are underrating David Haye a little bit, and overrating Vitali Klitschko, infact i've always thought Vitali Klitschko is a bit overrated. So he gave a good effort against an overweight/old Lennox Lewis.

    Hell Ray Mercer done better against a younger Lennox Lewis, and Zeljko Mavrovic. Didn't do bad either so who else has Vitali Klitschko really beaten ? because the fact is and this is quite a sad comment, is that this could be the best opponent Vitali Klitschko has ever fought, except for Lennox Lewis.

    A part time police officer and a man who takes golf more serious than boxing, AKA Corrie Sanders don't really cut it. Neither does the whale Kirk Johnson, or the mis-match fight with Danny Williams. Or quitting on a injury against Chris Byrd when many fighters have got through worse, hell Danny Williams won with a dislocated shoulder.

    Im not saying David Haye will win, but i think people are far too much on the Vitali Klitschko band-wagon. Just because he gave a good effort against an overweight Lennox Lewis, outside of that who has he really beaten ? and he's so injury prone that theres no way i would 100 percent pick Vitali Klitschko.

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    What a birthday present for me....I get to witness the destruction of David Haye!

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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I think people are underrating David Haye a little bit, and overrating Vitali Klitschko, infact i've always thought Vitali Klitschko is a bit overrated. So he gave a good effort against an overweight/old Lennox Lewis.

    Hell Ray Mercer done better against a younger Lennox Lewis, and Zeljko Mavrovic. Didn't do bad either so who else has Vitali Klitschko really beaten ? because the fact is and this is quite a sad comment, is that this could be the best opponent Vitali Klitschko has ever fought, except for Lennox Lewis.

    A part time police officer and a man who takes golf more serious than boxing, AKA Corrie Sanders don't really cut it. Neither does the whale Kirk Johnson, or the mis-match fight with Danny Williams. Or quitting on a injury against Chris Byrd when many fighters have got through worse, hell Danny Williams won with a dislocated shoulder.

    Im not saying David Haye will win, but i think people are far too much on the Vitali Klitschko band-wagon. Just because he gave a good effort against an overweight Lennox Lewis, outside of that who has he really beaten ? and he's so injury prone that theres no way i would 100 percent pick Vitali Klitschko.
    Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.

    I keep seeing people predicting a second round KO for Vitali. Now I think Haye has got one hell of a fight on his hands here but 2nd round? No way I see it going to around the 7-8th round. There is no way in hell either man is going to stand in front of the other and let his opponent unload. Both WILL rspect the others power and I see Haye taking the first few rounds on his speed. It just depends how much damage he can do in the early going because eventually he will get caught and then we will find out whether or not he can take a HW's punch. We know Vitali can.

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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I think people are underrating David Haye a little bit, and overrating Vitali Klitschko, infact i've always thought Vitali Klitschko is a bit overrated. So he gave a good effort against an overweight/old Lennox Lewis.

    Hell Ray Mercer done better against a younger Lennox Lewis, and Zeljko Mavrovic. Didn't do bad either so who else has Vitali Klitschko really beaten ? because the fact is and this is quite a sad comment, is that this could be the best opponent Vitali Klitschko has ever fought, except for Lennox Lewis.

    A part time police officer and a man who takes golf more serious than boxing, AKA Corrie Sanders don't really cut it. Neither does the whale Kirk Johnson, or the mis-match fight with Danny Williams. Or quitting on a injury against Chris Byrd when many fighters have got through worse, hell Danny Williams won with a dislocated shoulder.

    Im not saying David Haye will win, but i think people are far too much on the Vitali Klitschko band-wagon. Just because he gave a good effort against an overweight Lennox Lewis, outside of that who has he really beaten ? and he's so injury prone that theres no way i would 100 percent pick Vitali Klitschko.
    Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.

    I keep seeing people predicting a second round KO for Vitali. Now I think Haye has got one hell of a fight on his hands here but 2nd round? No way I see it going to around the 7-8th round. There is no way in hell either man is going to stand in front of the other and let his opponent unload. Both WILL rspect the others power and I see Haye taking the first few rounds on his speed. It just depends how much damage he can do in the early going because eventually he will get caught and then we will find out whether or not he can take a HW's punch. We know Vitali can.
    I'am not sure Vitali will respect Haye's power i think he might recon he is just a blown up cruiserweight that wont hurt me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.
    What? That is ridiculous! David Haye hasn't proven anything at heavyweight other than he likes to talk. He hasn't taken a punch from a heavyweight puncher and he hasn't KO'd a fighter who has never been down/hurt/KO'd before.

    I guess David Haye has A chance but it's not a very good one...Vitali has KO'd all but 1 of the fighters he has beaten, he's lost 2 times due to injury/doctor intervention (both times he was up on the cards), and other than that he hasn't had any trouble at all with any fighters. Vitali has the height, reach, power, and experience over Haye and don't think he won't use all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Good points. I agree this is the toughest opponent he has faced barring Lennox.
    What? That is ridiculous! David Haye hasn't proven anything at heavyweight other than he likes to talk. He hasn't taken a punch from a heavyweight puncher and he hasn't KO'd a fighter who has never been down/hurt/KO'd before.

    I guess David Haye has A chance but it's not a very good one...Vitali has KO'd all but 1 of the fighters he has beaten, he's lost 2 times due to injury/doctor intervention (both times he was up on the cards), and other than that he hasn't had any trouble at all with any fighters. Vitali has the height, reach, power, and experience over Haye and don't think he won't use all of them.
    P4P this is easily the best fighter Vitali Klitschko has fought, except for Lennox Lewis of course. We don't know how David Haye will take a punch off a Heavyweight true. But i think in the fights we have seen he has kept all his other attributes and he's a very dangerous opponent.

    Lyle i know you like the Klitschko brothers which is fine i got nothing against that, but i do think Vitali Klitschko is overrated sorry i do. People overrate him because he gave a good effort against a bad version of Lennox Lewis.

    Outside of that is his career that impressive ? quitting against a very undersized Heavyweight in Chris Byrd. Makes me question his heart because many fighters have gotten through worse. Yes you will say well he showed heart against Lennox Lewis, but fighters can show heart in some fights then completely do a U-Turn in other fights, depending on the situation.

    And his victories over Corrie Sanders, Samuel Peter, Kirk Johnson, ETC. Just aren't that impressive, he has a high KO record because he's fought fighters like those. Corrie Sanders don't even take boxing seriously, Samuel Peter is a plodding joke, and Kirk Johnson was an overweight whale, who didn't even train for his fight with Vitali Klitschko.

    Is Vitali Klitschko a good fighter ? yes he is but i think his brother shits all over him in every department, except for the chin department. I don't really think Vitali Klitschko is that good of a boxer, he relies alot on his leaning back style and his toughness.
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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Haye by KO, Vitali's breaking down, its gonna happen at some point even if it doesn't happen here.

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    ICB, I have seen any number of really strong cruiserweights come to heavyweight and look less than average, I have a feeling that David Haye is one of those guys simply because he didn't want to really test himself before getting the title shots. Sure people can say "Well the Klitschko's gave him the shot" but in all honesty he talked his way into them and he's going to get flattened.

    Vitali's chin is pretty solid, I've only seen him slightly hurt by Corrie Sanders and Lennox Lewis, both guys were really big punchers at heavyweight....David Haye isn't in their league. And the only times Vitali has lost have been because of a really bad cut and a torn rotator cuff.

    To beat Vitali, given what we have seen of Haye's chin, David can't afford to get hit at all...do you think this is possible? All Vitali has to do is drop 1 power punch on him, get him in danger and then the fight is over, it's just as simple as that. It's not about Vitali being overrated it's about Haye being overmatched

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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

    Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    I say Haye has some success in the first 3 rds but Vitaly once he gets into the bout will beat him brutally, Vitaly has a real personal dislike for Haye and Vitaly has a hell of a mean streak for guys he doesnt like.

    Anyone remember Sanders and Williams?
    no but i remember chris byrd & lennox lewis

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    Default Re: Vitali v Haye done deal for September 12th 2009

    Vitali gets injured before the fight even takes place and Haye goes a whole year without having a fight and then maybe we can actually get Chambers or Arreola and Haye to fight. Can we act like there are other heavyweights besides Vitali and Wladimer. Everyone is in a rush to fight them for the pay day but what about fighting each other. Those brothers are too much too soon for a lot of up and coming heavweights yet you have fighters with 15 fights calling them out its unbelievable. Why don't they all fight each other first.
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