Freddie Roach is a CNUT

[Kirkland Laing]

If some of you guys becalling and trying to ridicule Freddie Roach actually had half the courage and determination he has, you'd be far better men than you are showing yourselves to be here now. Despite his physical disabilities Freddie is still one of the premier boxing trainers in the world today. Freddie has faith in Amir Khan lets give him a chance to see what he can do. Freddie believes in Tony Margarito, so do I, I hope they do get together soon.
You know guys sitting behind a puter screen becalling and attempting to insult other people doesnt make you look macho it only makes you look childish. If you fancy yourselves lets see you get the gloves on & get in the ring and see what you've got OK??

With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.

Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.

It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.

Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion

Where do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.

[C.J.Rock]

With all due respect and not a personal attack on you; I don't care if Roach believes in Margarito; I think it's a stupid move to take on a guy who put men's lives in danger; in a sport that already puts men's lives in danger as soon as they lace up. It sets a bad precedent imo and basically says it's ok to cheat, someone will be waiting for you if and when you get caught. I stopped believing in Margarito when he got caught; because I always believed him to be a fair fighter.

Either Tony knew about that stuff in his gloves and didn't care; or he was too stupid to pay attention, which is reckless. Tony was one of my fave current as well as all time fighters; but he shouldn't be allowed back in the ring. I don't care about his livelyhood because he didn't seem to care about the guys he faced off against and their well being, or the consequences it could have had on their families. Maybe he only did it that one time, or maybe for a long time. Either way he can starve to death for all I care.

It's obvious Roach is losing his mind. A great trainer; but I'm astonished e would put his name on the line to coddle a cheat.

Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion

Where do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.

Read the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOL

[Diane]

Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion

Where do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.

Read the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOL

Not that I'm trying to pick a fight here, but I've read the commissions report, and never have they said that it was just "trace elements" or that it was sulpher only. Every single media outlet reported that it was calcium and sulpher.

If you can provide the proof that it was only a trace amount, and sulpher only, I'd like to see it.

Here's their report.

[JT Rock]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

[C.J.Rock]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

[JT Rock]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

Ah sorry there slim, you still havent given us any Plaster concrete evidence. Why would there be sulpher or traces of it in his glove? Was he hiding matches in there for a post fight cigar

The report was pretty straight forward dude, there are only 2 people on this forum who believe Tony didnt cheat, 1 is you and the other is a low rent version of Tom Waits

Your still mediocre at best

now go back and assume the position Diane put you in

[ICB]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

How many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?

http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg

[JazMerkin]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

How many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?

http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg

What are you talking about Ice?? Everyone's ears & face look like that...


























... well, in Lord of the Rings they do

[LEGION]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

How many fighters do you know, that have done this to a fighter ?

http://www.sweetfights.com/margarito014_448319437.jpg

ICB that ear was ready to pop before he ever got in te ring that night; didn't surpise me one bit it blew up like a pimple. Weren't they draining it before the fight started? That was nasty though.

[Diane]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

Do you even know how to read?

Here, I will try to explain it to you in as simple of terms as possible, since you seem to have a problem with reading the document.

- Look at page 3
- Look at point #7
- Point #7 states that one pad was sent for analysis, and the results were that a white flaky substance was found on the pad, and within the interstices of the gauze itself. So you see, since the substance was found throughout the whole pad, it cannot be claimed as being a "trace amount".

- Look at page 3
- Look at point #8
- Hmmm, the hearing takes place.

You see, the number 8 comes after the number 7, therefore what took place on point #7, came before what happened on point #8.

You got that so far?

- Look at page 4
- Look at point #9
- Point #9 states that during the hearing the 2nd pad was at the lab to be analyzed.

You see, 2 comes after 1, therefore the 2nd pad was sent to the lab during the hearing, after the 1st pad had already been analyzed.

Are you catching on yet?

- Look at page 4
- Look at points #1 and #2 under the "Legal Conclusions" title
- Both points state it was a "plaster like substance". Now if it was sulpher only, they would not use the word plaster, because sulpher alone does not make plaster. If the commision were to use the word plaster, if in fact, it was sulpher only, they would leave themselves open for legal actions by stating the wrong substance. And if it was sulpher only, the report would have stated the word "sulpher" as the substance.

I hope that you were able to understand my explanation, I tried to explain it as simple as possible.

So when are you going to post your proof?

[C.J.Rock]

I believe Diane just owned your a$$

Good Work

LOL JT If anyone has been owned its you & Diane . Look at the date of the report Diane posted . Look at the last page. It states CLEARLY!!!
The pad has been sent to the lab for analysis . This was issued BEFORE the damn pad was sent to the lab so how the hell can it have the test results on it ? Hows it feel to be OWNED !!! JT and the best part is you did it yourself buddy ROFL.
After extensive analysis and testing in the lab all that was found was a trace element of sulpher. So much for loaded gloves huh

Do you even know how to read?

Here, I will try to explain it to you in as simple of terms as possible, since you seem to have a problem with reading the document.

- Look at page 3
- Look at point #7
- Point #7 states that one pad was sent for analysis, and the results were that a white flaky substance was found on the pad, and within the interstices of the gauze itself. So you see, since the substance was found throughout the whole pad, it cannot be claimed as being a "trace amount".

- Look at page 3
- Look at point #8
- Hmmm, the hearing takes place.

You see, the number 8 comes after the number 7, therefore what took place on point #7, came before what happened on point #8.

You got that so far?

- Look at page 4
- Look at point #9
- Point #9 states that during the hearing the 2nd pad was at the lab to be analyzed.

You see, 2 comes after 1, therefore the 2nd pad was sent to the lab during the hearing, after the 1st pad had already been analyzed.

Are you catching on yet?

- Look at page 4
- Look at points #1 and #2 under the "Legal Conclusions" title
- Both points state it was a "plaster like substance". Now if it was sulpher only, they would not use the word plaster, because sulpher alone does not make plaster. If the commision were to use the word plaster, if in fact, it was sulpher only, they would leave themselves open for legal actions by stating the wrong substance. And if it was sulpher only, the report would have stated the word "sulpher" as the substance.

I hope that you were able to understand my explanation, I tried to explain it as simple as possible.

So when are you going to post your proof?

Just read the date on that paper when that hearing was held. The only thing discovered in the wrap was sulpher which is found in plaster but also in hand creme
The first pad was "analyzed" in the dressing room day of the
fight by the so called CA commision. Look at the date on that report.
Dont forget the wonderful CA commision's own inspector passed that wrap as OK and signed off on it too. Is that why he was later removed I wonder? lol
Provide proof that Tony Margarito knowingly tried to load his gloves and I'd be one of the first calling for a lifetime ban. Up till now no one has been able to do that

[Kirkland Laing]

Everyone accuses Margarito of having loaded gloves which is preposterous.
Ok he had a thin gauze insert which technically is illegal. After extensive testing in a lab all that was found on that insert was a harmless trace element of sulpher. Yeah sulpher is found in plaster but also in hand creme.
This is all they have against Margarito Not one person who examined the insert said it was in any way dangerous or harmful to his opponent. Nor was it much use as protection to Margarito's hands. At the most Margarito was guilty of a technicality which has been blown up out of all proportion

Where do you get "trace elements" from? They found calcium and sulphur powder, or plaster of paris premix.

Read the lab reports .. all they claim to have found were trace elements of sulpher. If it was calcium & sulpher it would have gone hard when wet It didnt & still hasnt LOL

The only official wording I read said calcium and sulphur present, nothing about trace elements. Show me a link to a lab report that says trace elements.