Old Super-Middleweight/Middleweight/Light Middleweight Threads

[Galaxy]

I voted for him to be removed from 160 and put in the pool at 160. With his weight problems I don't see any way he comes back down in weight, especially considering he's signed on for at least three fights at SMW. I will wish Arum would've put Pavlik in with him at 160, because that fight has all the making of a classic.

PS. This board fucking rules.

I know he's signed on for these 168 fights but I'm sure there's an out clause if a bigger money fight comes along. I could see him returning to 160 if the Pavlik fight was dangled in front of him. Thats what really swayed my vote...

[JazMerkin]

I voted for him to be removed from 160 and put in the pool at 160. With his weight problems I don't see any way he comes back down in weight, especially considering he's signed on for at least three fights at SMW. I will wish Arum would've put Pavlik in with him at 160, because that fight has all the making of a classic.

PS. This board fucking rules.

I know he's signed on for these 168 fights but I'm sure there's an out clause if a bigger money fight comes along. I could see him returning to 160 if the Pavlik fight was dangled in front of him. Thats what really swayed my vote...

I really doubt it, his promoter Sauerland was the key part of the Showtime deal & took on Kessler for it. Pavlik wasn't keen to fight him anyway, & I actually think this is now bigger. Combined with everything else, I'm certain that he won't be going back down. Like I said in the other thread we need to keep this fresh, it didn't look good Valero being ranked in a division he'd long made it clear he had no interest in for so long.

[Galaxy]

I voted for him to be removed from 160 and put in the pool at 160. With his weight problems I don't see any way he comes back down in weight, especially considering he's signed on for at least three fights at SMW. I will wish Arum would've put Pavlik in with him at 160, because that fight has all the making of a classic.

PS. This board fucking rules.

I know he's signed on for these 168 fights but I'm sure there's an out clause if a bigger money fight comes along. I could see him returning to 160 if the Pavlik fight was dangled in front of him. Thats what really swayed my vote...

I really doubt it, his promoter Sauerland was the key part of the Showtime deal & took on Kessler for it. Pavlik wasn't keen to fight him anyway, & I actually think this is now bigger. Combined with everything else, I'm certain that he won't be going back down. Like I said in the other thread we need to keep this fresh, it didn't look good Valero being ranked in a division he'd long made it clear he had no interest in for so long.

Your probably right, but stranger things have happened & its not beyond possibility. Maybe if a fighter makes it clear that they are going to campaign at another weight e.g. Campbell, Vasquez, Abraham, we keep them ranked for 4-6 months? from the time of their last fight at that weight before removing them.

Also if Abraham remained ranked at 160 it would not effect the chance for a champion to be crowned as Pavlik could fight anyone in the top 5 & it could qualify as a championship fight if the committee voted for it

[CFH]

I voted for him to be removed from 160 and put in the pool at 160. With his weight problems I don't see any way he comes back down in weight, especially considering he's signed on for at least three fights at SMW. I will wish Arum would've put Pavlik in with him at 160, because that fight has all the making of a classic.

PS. This board fucking rules.

I know he's signed on for these 168 fights but I'm sure there's an out clause if a bigger money fight comes along. I could see him returning to 160 if the Pavlik fight was dangled in front of him. Thats what really swayed my vote...

Pavlik (Arum really) was never going to make the Abraham fight happen, at least until he was a complete corpse at 160, which he was well on his way to becoming. I don't think he ever moves back down.