Mayweather: "If Manny wants it, I'll pay Juan to step aside"

[OumaFan]

Well, let me say that I've given this very little thought and am chuckling while posting because it seems totally unrealistic. Its just Floyd talking, Floyd's good at fighting, talking err not so much.

They would have to give him Hatton I would think. For a couple million. I would turn off my phones if I was Ricky but meh money's money. This by the way is not to infer that I think this has substance.

And IMO all this assumes to some extent that JMM is cashing himself out. At least a little. And yes I know that all these guys are fighting for money but that doesn't mean that he doesn't think he can beat Floyd or isn't interested in doing it partly for his legacy.

[DaxxKahn]

Sorry Juan you're not a draw, Pac-Floyd is, that's the fight the boxing fans, other sports fans, and general public wants to see. This is a business simple as that, although I wish Floyd hadn't jump in and signed the Marquez fight.

I would rather see Floyd give a beating to Pac than to Juan.

.......Sorry just when I read your post I have the urge to Mock you...

[Fenster]

Well, let me say that I've given this very little thought and am chuckling while posting because it seems totally unrealistic. Its just Floyd talking, Floyd's good at fighting, talking err not so much.

They would have to give him Hatton I would think. For a couple million. I would turn off my phones if I was Ricky but meh money's money. This by the way is not to infer that I think this has substance.

And IMO all this assumes to some extent that JMM is cashing himself out. At least a little. And yes I know that all these guys are fighting for money but that doesn't mean that he doesn't think he can beat Floyd or isn't interested in doing it partly for his legacy.

Come on Ouma, when has a fighter like Marquez ever talked about "legacy".. he's a proper fighter, and like all proper fighters is searching for his best money option and is willing to fight anyone (apart from Naz back in the day, when finally offered the chance ).

[The Fightfan]

I'll go the other way now and say Mayweather doesn't want to fight Marquez because he's afraid. I've had enough of this shit it's on, then it's off, it's on, now it could be off again. You FUCKING punk just fight Marquez quit bitching and maybe you can fight Manny next. This is a fucking joke this guy should be suspended for this shit. Fuck Mayweather.

Jackass it wasn't met to be serious. It's basically just saying whatever one is saying but screw it why not say he's afraid Marquez. If he's such a badass and wanting to fight people who call him out everytime someone sneezes his name well give Marquez the money.

[OumaFan]

I don't know what he talks about. I don't keep up.

I agree with you for the most part that money drives everything but these guys do care about their legacies, you don't think beating a guy like Mayweather would be special to him even after he finished rolling around on his bed of money? Athletes in general care to some extent about their legacies, why would boxers be different? I care about my legacy and I haven't accomplished anything.

I'm not going to take the Naz bait. That sounds a bit too much like the Calzaghe-Hopkins negotiation debate, I don't want any part of anything like that, creepy.

[Kel]

Well Floyds words say it all about Marquez chance.

To be fair no one gives Marquez a chance so what's the point of the fight? If the Pac fight can be made then why not scrap it. Marquez wont mind a million for NOT get punched in the head.

Exactly JMM fought Chris John in Indonesia for a bag of Hamburgers... 1 mil is surely worth a few months of someones time

Not to mention you dicks jumped on Floyd for fighting JMM instead of Pac, now your all defenders of Marquez... Holy shat your a bunch of nutters

How can you defend Floyd? The fight was signed, Marquez who has worked fucking hard to get where he is at is expected to just fuck off with a payout because Floyd ain't the draw he thinks he is?

[JazMerkin]

I really think people are placing a bit too much importance on this comment. I don't think it was a serious invitation for Pacquiao, more intended as 'I'm not ducking anybody' kind of comment. He goes on after that about how he rates Marquez as a better fighter than Pac, so I really don't think he's planning to shaft JMM.

[Fenster]

I don't know what he talks about. I don't keep up.

I agree with you for the most part that money drives everything but these guys do care about their legacies, you don't think beating a guy like Mayweather would be special to him even after he finished rolling around on his bed of money? Athletes in general care to some extent about their legacies, why would boxers be different? I care about my legacy and I haven't accomplished anything.

I'm not going to take the Naz bait. That sounds a bit too much like the Calzaghe-Hopkins negotiation debate, I don't want any part of anything like that, creepy.

No bait it's the truth. He turned down a career high payday which obviously contradicts what i said about him.. anyway forget that, I believe Marquez would fight anyone if the price was right (just not Naz for some reason ).

I believe boxers are different when it comes to legacy. Do you think Marquez would still choose to fight Floyd if he was offered the same amount of money to rematch Diaz? Or Hatton? Or someone he could beat?

[OumaFan]

If we didn't make too much out of things here and there we'd have nothing to talk about. Its better than Bilbo talking about how dinosaurs are really dragons or some shit.

It doesn't surprise me to hear he said JMM was better, its good hyping of the fight (whether or not he believes it) which is why talking about skipping over JMM was a bit of a dumb moment.

[JazMerkin]

If we didn't make too much out of things here and there we'd have nothing to talk about. Its better than Bilbo talking about how dinosaurs are really dragons or some shit.

It doesn't surprise me to hear he said JMM was better, its good hyping of the fight (whether or not he believes it) which is why talking about skipping over JMM was a bit of a dumb moment.

He may well believe it, a fairly sizeable number of people do. I just think some people want this to be some rosetta stone of proof that Floyd needs Pac, when in reality its a pretty dumb comment probably blurted out as he got all worked up when someone asked him a question about Pac

[OumaFan]

I don't know what he talks about. I don't keep up.

I agree with you for the most part that money drives everything but these guys do care about their legacies, you don't think beating a guy like Mayweather would be special to him even after he finished rolling around on his bed of money? Athletes in general care to some extent about their legacies, why would boxers be different? I care about my legacy and I haven't accomplished anything.

I'm not going to take the Naz bait. That sounds a bit too much like the Calzaghe-Hopkins negotiation debate, I don't want any part of anything like that, creepy.

No bait it's the truth. He turned down a career high payday which obviously contradicts what i said about him.. anyway forget that, I believe Marquez would fight anyone if the price was right (just not Naz for some reason ).

I believe boxers are different when it comes to legacy. Do you think Marquez would still choose to fight Floyd if he was offered the same amount of money to rematch Diaz? Or Hatton? Or someone he could beat?

Did you say something about JMM and Naz? I blanked out for a second.

Meh, its a bit of a blanket statement because who knows what JMM would do, maybe he would want the chance to beat Floyd because it would be such an accomplishment. And I don't think that's utopian or absurd. I agree that boxers generally are motivated by money first and foremost but you could take that to an extreme where they are just money obsessed robots who don't care about anything else and that's just not likely to be the case for all of them even if money is still numero uno.

But yes I generally agree that fighter A would generally prefer to fight fighter B for 4 million dollars instead of fighter C for 4 millions dollars if fighter B was presumed to be a much easier mark.

However that probably changes somewhat if he feels like he's being made to look like an idiot by fighter C.

[The Congressman]

So I guess the fight might get cancelled again huh? Maybe they're gonna cancel it for good this time cuz they're still having poor ticket sale.

[generalbulldog]

Sorry Juan you're not a draw, Pac-Floyd is, that's the fight the boxing fans, other sports fans, and general public wants to see. This is a business simple as that, although I wish Floyd hadn't jump in and signed the Marquez fight.

I would rather see Floyd give a beating to Pac than to Juan.

.......Sorry just when I read your post I have the urge to Mock you...

Yes because we all know the general public, casual sports fan, and all the boxing fans would rather see Marquez-Floyd than Floyd-Pacman right?

Even a Rusty Floyd should dust Marquez easily. Juan Marquez can go fight someone in a developing country for 30k again he's out of his league against Floyd and he was lucky to get a 3 or 4 million payday, as someone said he would have been happy to fight someone for a bag of hamburgers.

[Fenster]

I don't know what he talks about. I don't keep up.

I agree with you for the most part that money drives everything but these guys do care about their legacies, you don't think beating a guy like Mayweather would be special to him even after he finished rolling around on his bed of money? Athletes in general care to some extent about their legacies, why would boxers be different? I care about my legacy and I haven't accomplished anything.

I'm not going to take the Naz bait. That sounds a bit too much like the Calzaghe-Hopkins negotiation debate, I don't want any part of anything like that, creepy.

No bait it's the truth. He turned down a career high payday which obviously contradicts what i said about him.. anyway forget that, I believe Marquez would fight anyone if the price was right (just not Naz for some reason ).

I believe boxers are different when it comes to legacy. Do you think Marquez would still choose to fight Floyd if he was offered the same amount of money to rematch Diaz? Or Hatton? Or someone he could beat?

Did you say something about JMM and Naz? I blanked out for a second.

Meh, its a bit of a blanket statement because who knows what JMM would do, maybe he would want the chance to beat Floyd because it would be such an accomplishment. And I don't think that's utopian or absurd. I agree that boxers generally are motivated by money first and foremost but you could take that to an extreme where they are just money obsessed robots who don't care about anything else and that's just not likely to be the case for all of them even if money is still numero uno.

But yes I generally agree that fighter A would generally prefer to fight fighter B for 4 million dollars instead of fighter C for 4 millions dollars if fighter B was presumed to be a much easier mark.

However that probably changes somewhat if he feels like he's being made to look like an idiot by fighter C.

What the funk? A B C what? Lost me

I don't think it's a case of "money obsessed robots".. i think boxing can't really be compared with any other major sport. These guys wouldn't fight without great money rewards, and the legacy comes a huge second to the money, but obviously fans/punters don't want to hear that.

As Toney said that time - you don't PLAY boxing.

[blegit]

I really think people are placing a bit too much importance on this comment. I don't think it was a serious invitation for Pacquiao, more intended as 'I'm not ducking anybody' kind of comment. He goes on after that about how he rates Marquez as a better fighter than Pac, so I really don't think he's planning to shaft JMM.

I completely agree with you. People are running with this comment like PBF is new to them. We all know PBF runs his mouth and with running your mouth you often blab and say whatever is at the top of your head. Besides, JMM would have to accept the step aside money if the Pac fight were to happen and if he did that then that means he was satisfied. Plus, lets keep it real. We all would rather see the PBF/Pac fight.