Greatest Fighters over 40 years old...

[Kev]

Shane Mosely is getting close to this club imo and Antonio Tarver deserves a mention along with Glen Johnson of course, both winning titles at 40 I believe.

I'm not that clued up on Archie Moore so I may be wrong here but isn't a lot of the reason he's considered so far ahead of everyone else in some part down to nostalgia?

I mean against the elite he got knocked out, Ali, Patterson, Marciano all ko'd him whilst Hopkins has not only been highly competitive with the current elite at plus 40 years of age but he's beaten and completely schooled some of them.

In an absolute sense you'd have to think that a 44 year old B Hop would have too much for a 44 year old Archie.

It should also be noted of course that Archie was able to do what is apparently impossible and that is come down in weight sometimes dropping 20 or 30 lbs and winning against top opposition like Yvonne Durell, another catchweight fight I do believe

[DaxxKahn]

Shane Mosely is getting close to this club imo and Antonio Tarver deserves a mention along with Glen Johnson of course, both winning titles at 40 I believe.

I'm not that clued up on Archie Moore so I may be wrong here but isn't a lot of the reason he's considered so far ahead of everyone else in some part down to nostalgia?

I mean against the elite he got knocked out, Ali, Patterson, Marciano all ko'd him whilst Hopkins has not only been highly competitive with the current elite at plus 40 years of age but he's beaten and completely schooled some of them.

In an absolute sense you'd have to think that a 44 year old B Hop would have too much for a 44 year old Archie.

It should also be noted of course that Archie was able to do what is apparently impossible and that is come down in weight sometimes dropping 20 or 30 lbs and winning against top opposition like Yvonne Durell, another catchweight fight I do believe

Johnson is a good choice forgot all about him...He was only 35 when he was champ though

[Britkid]

Shane Mosely is getting close to this club imo and Antonio Tarver deserves a mention along with Glen Johnson of course, both winning titles at 40 I believe.

I'm not that clued up on Archie Moore so I may be wrong here but isn't a lot of the reason he's considered so far ahead of everyone else in some part down to nostalgia?

I mean against the elite he got knocked out, Ali, Patterson, Marciano all ko'd him whilst Hopkins has not only been highly competitive with the current elite at plus 40 years of age but he's beaten and completely schooled some of them.

In an absolute sense you'd have to think that a 44 year old B Hop would have too much for a 44 year old Archie.

It should also be noted of course that Archie was able to do what is apparently impossible and that is come down in weight sometimes dropping 20 or 30 lbs and winning against top opposition like Yvonne Durell, another catchweight fight I do believe

Against Durelle; Moore had to boil down to 175 and yet despite being floored four times (three times in the first) still managed as a 40+ title holder, to defend his crown, winning a rematch in three one sided rounds.

For what it was worth; no one could ever beat Moore at 175 from 1956 when Moore turned 40 officially (some believe it was as early as 1951, that Moore turned 40), until Moore retired as undefeated Light Heavyweight World Champion.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Duran was how old when he beat Barkley?

[ICB]

Duran was how old when he beat Barkley?

37 i think.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Duran was how old when he beat Barkley?

37 i think.

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

[JazMerkin]

Duran was how old when he beat Barkley?

37 i think.

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

[ElTerribleMorales]

37 i think.

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

yea cause winning a world title at a weight, 5 divisions above your natural weight proves you were shot at 30, especially by doing it against the guy who had just knocked out Thomas Hearns in 3 rounds in his previous time out.

IMO though Hopkins holds the torch as the best fighter in his 40's just seeing how he continues to take on the best and W L or D he never is completely outclassed

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[Jody Lane]

Shane Mosely is getting close to this club imo and Antonio Tarver deserves a mention along with Glen Johnson of course, both winning titles at 40 I believe.

I'm not that clued up on Archie Moore so I may be wrong here but isn't a lot of the reason he's considered so far ahead of everyone else in some part down to nostalgia?

I mean against the elite he got knocked out, Ali, Patterson, Marciano all ko'd him whilst Hopkins has not only been highly competitive with the current elite at plus 40 years of age but he's beaten and completely schooled some of them.

In an absolute sense you'd have to think that a 44 year old B Hop would have too much for a 44 year old Archie.

It should also be noted of course that Archie was able to do what is apparently impossible and that is come down in weight sometimes dropping 20 or 30 lbs and winning against top opposition like Yvonne Durell, another catchweight fight I do believe

Not nostalgia. The fact that Moore was 45 or 48 when he gave up the title says a shit load as to his ability.

[fan johnny]

Current? maybe "Hands of Stone" or "Macho Camacho" could still step into the ring with the "Hitman".....

[JonnyFolds]

Somehow I feel that the last statement completely closed this thread. But yeah, hitman needs another shot old guy to beat up on, me thinks.

[Britkid]

Somehow I feel that the last statement completely closed this thread. But yeah, hitman needs another shot old guy to beat up on, me thinks.

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