Greatest Fighters over 40 years old...

[JazMerkin]

Duran was how old when he beat Barkley?

37 i think.

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

[ElTerribleMorales]

37 i think.

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

yea cause winning a world title at a weight, 5 divisions above your natural weight proves you were shot at 30, especially by doing it against the guy who had just knocked out Thomas Hearns in 3 rounds in his previous time out.

IMO though Hopkins holds the torch as the best fighter in his 40's just seeing how he continues to take on the best and W L or D he never is completely outclassed

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[JazMerkin]

well that'd be close enough don't you think? lol especially when it was 5 divisions above from where he started

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

yea cause winning a world title at a weight, 5 divisions above your natural weight proves you were shot at 30, especially by doing it against the guy who had just knocked out Thomas Hearns in 3 rounds in his previous time out.

IMO though Hopkins holds the torch as the best fighter in his 40's just seeing how he continues to take on the best and W L or D he never is completely outclassed

either

LMAO, I would've thought mentioning Lawlor would've made you realize that I meant the 3rd fight. If you think getting beaten by an average MW in Lawlor wasn't the hint for him to retire than you're blinded by Duran-love. The Barkley fight was great, but it was not a dominant win, I've watched that fight & at different times thought both guys won it. Duran did nothing of any note post-Barkley other than fight some bums & lose to Vinny Paz (also 5 divisions above where he started) which was a travesty as he would've destroyed that fool in his day.

[ICB]

Yeah, why not

We might as well include 37 year olds in a thread about great 40+ fighter. He's a perfect example of a guy who should've known to quit in his 30s, if not after the SRL defeat, then after he got KO'd by Pat Lawlor.

I also wouldn't count Tarver & Johnson, as both have yet to do anything whilst actually being IN their 40s.

I actually hold Hopkins acheivements since turning 40 on a similar level to Moore's, I think the biggest difference is we have clearer idea of how he's faded since his prime at the start of the decade (anyone who says this is prime Hopkins is an idiot)

yea cause winning a world title at a weight, 5 divisions above your natural weight proves you were shot at 30, especially by doing it against the guy who had just knocked out Thomas Hearns in 3 rounds in his previous time out.

IMO though Hopkins holds the torch as the best fighter in his 40's just seeing how he continues to take on the best and W L or D he never is completely outclassed

either

LMAO, I would've thought mentioning Lawlor would've made you realize that I meant the 3rd fight. If you think getting KO'd by an average MW in Lawlor wasn't the hint for him to retire than you're blinded by Duran-love. The Barkley fight was great, but it was not a dominant win, I've watched that fight & at different times thought both guys won it. Duran did nothing of any note post-Barkley other than fight some bums & lose to Vinny Paz (also 5 divisions above where he started) which was a travesty as he would've destroyed that fool in his day.

I thought he couldn't continue against Pat Lawlor, because of a shoulder injury ? by the way i also thought Iran Barkley won, but because of the cirumstances surronding that fight size wise and age wise, i have no problem with Roberto Duran winning.

[JazMerkin]

yea cause winning a world title at a weight, 5 divisions above your natural weight proves you were shot at 30, especially by doing it against the guy who had just knocked out Thomas Hearns in 3 rounds in his previous time out.

IMO though Hopkins holds the torch as the best fighter in his 40's just seeing how he continues to take on the best and W L or D he never is completely outclassed

either

LMAO, I would've thought mentioning Lawlor would've made you realize that I meant the 3rd fight. If you think getting KO'd by an average MW in Lawlor wasn't the hint for him to retire than you're blinded by Duran-love. The Barkley fight was great, but it was not a dominant win, I've watched that fight & at different times thought both guys won it. Duran did nothing of any note post-Barkley other than fight some bums & lose to Vinny Paz (also 5 divisions above where he started) which was a travesty as he would've destroyed that fool in his day.

I thought he couldn't continue against Pat Lawlor, because of a shoulder injury ? by the way i also thought Iran Barkley won, but because of the cirumstances surronding that fight size wise and age wise, i have no problem with Roberto Duran winning.

You know what, I'll admit you might be right, I remember a chubby looking Duran getting KO'd by somebody not of his level, but it might have been someone else. I just remember he lost to Lawlor after SRL & put 2+2 together. Any ideas who it was?

[JonnyFolds]

Duran never really had a big win past 40, although he did weed out a lot of fighters for the middle weight division.

I don't remember the Lawlor fight and I am a pretty big Duran fan. He did get outboxed by Kirkland Liang, which was a little embarrassing. But he had some more than just redeeming moments after his campaign below WW.

Duran had the Davey Moore fight after SRL 2, he beat Barkley, and he almost beat Hagler in case any of you forgot. I (and the judges) had him ahead after 12 rounds... unfortunately they had to fight 15 rounds and with the 13th round a swing round, plus Duran losing the last 2 rounds clearly from no fuel left in the tank. It was really a razor thin decision and a tactical fight. Reminded me of JMMarquez and Barrera in a lot of ways. Two very seasoned/game fighters in the twilight of their careers dishing out every different punch and trick in the book!

Check that fight out if you ever get a chance.