Mayweather: "If Manny wants it, I'll pay Juan to step aside"

[Taeth]

Hey Floyd! Miguel, Shane, Tony, and Paul wants it too. When are they gonna get their chance to fight you? They've been waiting like forever. Lol

Sorry which one of them has earned this as much as Manny has?

[knodaledge]

The second argument Mayweather makes is if there is a fight to determine which man is better in the ring, he will receive the majority of the money from it.

That notion doesn’t sit well with the boxing promoter that represents Pacquiao, Bob Arum. Mayweather has already made it clear he wouldn’t consider a 50/50 split with Pacquiao because of his track record of generating enormous pay-per-view buys.

Schaefer agrees with him.

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

“So, it’s difficult for Floyd, who has worked so hard to get to where he is today, to say, ‘Okay, it should be 50/50,’ because in fact, it shouldn’t be 50/50. Each guy has a certain market value and they should get compensated accordingly.”


Schaefer makes a great point.

[generalbulldog]

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

[knodaledge]

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

I agree. But this is also a business. This is their careers and they want to be paid accordingly.

I just don't see why Pacquiao's people wouldn't take the fight. Mayweather said he wants it, he has the proof of drawing more against the 2 most recent common opponents, it's the fight the fans want to see.

There should be no reason negotiations shouldn't be taking place as we speak. I really hope they are.

[Kev]

Who really gives a shit who takes the lions share of the purse. Real fight fans just want to see a good fight. It's only the fanboys of the fighters that argues who should take what.

It's not the fans reaction to the purse split that fighters care about, its the money.

Floyd cares and he doesn't care if the fans care or not.

He feels he will be bringing in the majority of the PPV money and so he should receive a greater share.

It's not something that fanboys or haters can even argue over, its just the negotiations between the fighters. I want the fight to happen immensely and I don't care if one agrees to a 99-1 split but the fighters themselves care and therin lies the problem.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

[knodaledge]

The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

[Dr. Steelhammer]

Floyd not selling tickets is a big evidence that he's no longer a draw, period.

[generalbulldog]

The second argument Mayweather makes is if

“A fighter, just like anyone else, has a certain market value they establish over time,” Schaefer said. “Mayweather, in his last two fights did 3.5 million buys with Hatton and Oscar. Pacquiao has fought the same two guys and it did a little more than half of that.

Schaefer makes a great point.

Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

Like I've said real fight fans just wanna see a good fight, most don't care who gets the lions share but the diehard fanboys of either fighters.

I don't give a shit if Pacman gets 40% of the purse or Floyd gets 60% of it and vice versa, I just want to see a good fight.

Are you working for Floyd?

[Truth]

There are reasons why Floyd's fights with De La Hoya and Hatton made more than Pacquiao's:

A) De La Hoya fighting for thye P4P Title at his preferred weight
B) The hype surrounding an UNBEATEN Ricky Hatton
C) Much better economic times
D) Both Pacquiao fights were seen as mismatches and on one was sure how a former flyweight champ could perform against a top welterweight

The thing Floyd and his biased followers don't realize is that NONE of these have ANY correlation to who is the biggest draw in boxing today which is obviously Manny Pacquiao.

[OumaFan]

I don't know if its obvious if one guy is bigger than the other, their the two biggest draws but just saying Floyd did more buys is ignoring some obvious factors influencing that which Truth mentioned.

Except for both Pacquaio fights being mismatches. Yes with ODLH but not Hatton. Unless you mean the Hatton fight was thought of as a mismatch in Manny's favor? I don't think it was thought of as a mismatch either way, a lot of people were going with Hatton.

[knodaledge]

Yeah but to be fair. Oscar and Hatton have HUGE followings. I'm pretty sure both Audiences in attendance were Pro Opposition.

In terms of PPV buys it's obviously harder to determine who the buyers were following but no doubt Oscar Dela Hoya and Ricky Hatton brought a shit load to the table in terms of Buying power.... The fact that Floyds most recent fight aint selling so well further supports my point.

But Oscar/Hatton had the same HUGE followings when they fought Pacquiao. Why did they only do half the sales then?

We can only take from these numbers that, to the public, fights between Oscar/Mayweather & Hatton/Mayweather were more intriguing than Oscar/Pac & Hatton/Pac matches.

Also, were the reports of the fight not selling true? I remember hearing rumors but no evidence was presented. I read a report from a Golden Boy rep that said the rumors were false. Are they still rumor or were they proven fact?

Like I've said real fight fans just wanna see a good fight, most don't care who gets the lions share but the diehard fanboys of either fighters.

I don't give a shit if Pacman gets 40% of the purse or Floyd gets 60% of it and vice versa, I just want to see a good fight.

Are you working for Floyd?

Actually i'm not. I'm just a fan of boxing and would like to see this match happen because it is the best fight possible and would determine which fighter will claim the "boxer of the decade" throne.

All i see is one guy calling out the other, and the other saying nothing about it. One guy willing to pay out of pocket to make his #2 ranked opponent get out of the way so he can get at the #1 guy, and the other guy saying nothing.

The money thing shouldn't be the deciding factor for Pacquiao & his camp. The proof has been presented and the bottom line, the profit, favors Mayweather.

I'm a fan of both fighters and would support both of them but there should be no reason why this isn't being negotiated. Mayweather said he wants it, does Pacquiao? If this fight doesn't happen, who should we blame? The guy saying he's willing to pay out of pocket to get it or the guy who hasn't even issued a statement about it yet?

[LEGION]

What happened to Floyd wanting a "tune-up" fight to ease back in the game? If Floyd wanted Pac that bad maybe he should have waited until after Pac beat Hatton to come out of retirement, instead of announcing his fight with JMM right before the Hatton/Pac fight. I'm sure had that been the case the Mayweather/Pac fight could have been made by now.