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    Default Re: Bute-Andrade rematch 11/28!

    Quote Originally Posted by iwng100 View Post
    Bute was knockdown with 3 sec left of the fight (not 30),
    he was down for 8 sec. (not 20-25)
    Andrade was about 2 ft. from the center of the ring when Marlon “proceeded to rant at him” (though not many ref pay attention to this rule)

    Anyway this thread is about the rematch so here my prediction after a laborious calculus:

    Bute – UD = 59.2%
    Andrade – KO (TKO) = 37.3%
    NC due to injuries = 3.5%
    Bute – SD, MD or KO (TKO) = 0%
    Andrade – SD, MD or UD = 0%
    DRAW = 0%
    Bute was not knocked down with 3 seconds left. The bell rang after tall the ranting to Andrade and the ref proceeded back to the count and then the bell rang. It was closer to 30 than 3 seconds.

    For people not to say those extra seconds aren't precious should ask Mosley when he was in against Mayorga. Now that was a fight in which fighter was not in the neutral corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by iwng100 View Post
    Bute was knockdown with 3 sec left of the fight (not 30),
    he was down for 8 sec. (not 20-25)
    Andrade was about 2 ft. from the center of the ring when Marlon “proceeded to rant at him” (though not many ref pay attention to this rule)

    Anyway this thread is about the rematch so here my prediction after a laborious calculus:

    Bute – UD = 59.2%
    Andrade – KO (TKO) = 37.3%
    NC due to injuries = 3.5%
    Bute – SD, MD or KO (TKO) = 0%
    Andrade – SD, MD or UD = 0%
    DRAW = 0%
    Bute was not knocked down with 3 seconds left. The bell rang after tall the ranting to Andrade and the ref proceeded back to the count and then the bell rang. It was closer to 30 than 3 seconds.

    For people not to say those extra seconds aren't precious should ask Mosley when he was in against Mayorga. Now that was a fight in which fighter was not in the neutral corner
    Yes he was knocked down with 3 seconds left, its just no fighter can be saved by the bell in the final round. Which is why the bell wasn't rung, as the ref hadn't made his decision whether or not to let Lucian Bute continue.

    Watch this clip he was knocked down with about 3 seconds left in the round, the round was over by the time Lucian Bute got up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BD5rCPcXJ0

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    Default Re: Bute-Andrade rematch 11/28!

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by iwng100 View Post
    Bute was knockdown with 3 sec left of the fight (not 30),
    he was down for 8 sec. (not 20-25)
    Andrade was about 2 ft. from the center of the ring when Marlon “proceeded to rant at him” (though not many ref pay attention to this rule)

    Anyway this thread is about the rematch so here my prediction after a laborious calculus:

    Bute – UD = 59.2%
    Andrade – KO (TKO) = 37.3%
    NC due to injuries = 3.5%
    Bute – SD, MD or KO (TKO) = 0%
    Andrade – SD, MD or UD = 0%
    DRAW = 0%
    Bute was not knocked down with 3 seconds left. The bell rang after tall the ranting to Andrade and the ref proceeded back to the count and then the bell rang. It was closer to 30 than 3 seconds.

    For people not to say those extra seconds aren't precious should ask Mosley when he was in against Mayorga. Now that was a fight in which fighter was not in the neutral corner
    Yes he was knocked down with 3 seconds left, its just no fighter can be saved by the bell in the final round. Which is why the bell wasn't rung, as the ref hadn't made his decision whether or not to let Lucian Bute continue.

    Watch this clip he was knocked down with about 3 seconds left in the round, the round was over by the time Lucian Bute got up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BD5rCPcXJ0
    The count itself was close take away from the time left in the round, looking at this video I counted from the time Bute actually went down to the time he got up...Not the time Marlon started to count.....

    I counted to 9 with so thew time was questionable but fact is if Marlon counted when he was supposed to and the way he was supposed to Andrade would of had time to put Bute down again....Lucian was rteady to go
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    Default Re: Bute-Andrade rematch 11/28!

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post

    Bute was not knocked down with 3 seconds left. The bell rang after tall the ranting to Andrade and the ref proceeded back to the count and then the bell rang. It was closer to 30 than 3 seconds.

    For people not to say those extra seconds aren't precious should ask Mosley when he was in against Mayorga. Now that was a fight in which fighter was not in the neutral corner
    Yes he was knocked down with 3 seconds left, its just no fighter can be saved by the bell in the final round. Which is why the bell wasn't rung, as the ref hadn't made his decision whether or not to let Lucian Bute continue.

    Watch this clip he was knocked down with about 3 seconds left in the round, the round was over by the time Lucian Bute got up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BD5rCPcXJ0
    The count itself was close take away from the time left in the round, looking at this video I counted from the time Bute actually went down to the time he got up...Not the time Marlon started to count.....

    I counted to 9 with so thew time was questionable but fact is if Marlon counted when he was supposed to and the way he was supposed to Andrade would of had time to put Bute down again....Lucian was rteady to go
    How would he? If you don't think there were only 3 seconds left there were clearly less than 10. The clock doesn't stop when the fighter is on the floor so those seconds would have run out whilst he was getting up.

    Even if Marlon had given a fair count, as soon as Bute stood up the fight was finished, another punch wouldn't have been thrown.

    The Marlon debacle if anything takes away from Bute because he did get up, and he did finish the fight.

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    Default Re: Bute-Andrade rematch 11/28!

    Quote Originally Posted by markb018 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by iwng100 View Post
    Bute was knockdown with 3 sec left of the fight (not 30),
    he was down for 8 sec. (not 20-25)
    Andrade was about 2 ft. from the center of the ring when Marlon “proceeded to rant at him” (though not many ref pay attention to this rule)

    Anyway this thread is about the rematch so here my prediction after a laborious calculus:

    Bute – UD = 59.2%
    Andrade – KO (TKO) = 37.3%
    NC due to injuries = 3.5%
    Bute – SD, MD or KO (TKO) = 0%
    Andrade – SD, MD or UD = 0%
    DRAW = 0%
    Bute was not knocked down with 3 seconds left. The bell rang after tall the ranting to Andrade and the ref proceeded back to the count and then the bell rang. It was closer to 30 than 3 seconds.

    For people not to say those extra seconds aren't precious should ask Mosley when he was in against Mayorga. Now that was a fight in which fighter was not in the neutral corner
    The time was 2’ 52” when the clock was disappeared from the screen, I counted another 5 seconds until the KD was produced so basically it was 2’ 57” of the 12th round.
    About the fact that Andrade wasn’t in the neutral corner during the count, I already admitted that the most referees don’t pay attention to this rule and Marlon just used it to help Bute.
    I also think the most referees would have stopped the fight before the KD, here you can have a case, but about what happened after KD the most people overreact IMO.

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