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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

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    But if we are basing it on that, then no fighter can be close to a perfect fighter then. Because even Salvador Sanchez had off nights, in two very close decision wins against Pat Cowdell, Patrick Ford.

    All great fighters have off nights, some more so than others. But thats why when we have threads like this. I like to think of there greatest performance, where they looked unbeatable.
    Yes, but then Ali had nights, like against Foreman or Patterson that he looked like a perfect fighter. In fact many a fighter could be perfect if you base it on their best nights. It should be at least over the basis of passage of time. In that case, none of those fighters are 'perfect'. Roy Jones Jr was an incredible fighter, but not perfect, the same with the other guys. Toney particularly had all the natural ingredients to be an ATG of the highest calibre, but he lacked the attitude to make the best of what he had.
    To be honest though i think RJJ looked more unbeatable, than Muhammad Ali ever did. I mean to win even 4 rounds against a prime RJJ. Was considered an achievement, i mean he only ever struggled against Eric Harding, Montel Griffin 1, in his prime.

    Where as Muhammad Ali had a bunch of struggles, he had many controversial decisions and struggles against mediocre fighters. I don't see why you call Muhammad Ali an almost perfect fighter but not RJJ, there pretty similar with how they relied alot on there athletic ability, except RJJ hit harder.
    agree, i like roy. if he had good whiskers he'd be a perfect fighter.

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    The closest thing to a perfect fighter is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch.

    It's true that his defense is lacking but when you have an indestructable chin and body, wasting time taking defensive action only detracts, much like a sprinter would be foolishly wasting time if he was checking that there was solid ground beneath his feet before each step.

    A defense is only necessary when your opponent can hurt you, we don't wear crash helmets when we go outside to protect us from flies, simply not necessary.

    So, in conclusion, yes the most perfect fighter is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch.

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    The closest thing to a perfect fighter is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch.

    It's true that his defense is lacking but when you have an indestructable chin and body, wasting time taking defensive action only detracts, much like a sprinter would be foolishly wasting time if he was checking that there was solid ground beneath his feet before each step.

    A defense is only necessary when your opponent can hurt you, we don't wear crash helmets when we go outside to protect us from flies, simply not necessary.

    So, in conclusion, yes the most perfect fighter is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch.
    Stop on your screen again. Thread says perfect fighter. Not crappiest

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyBacon View Post
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    Lennox couldnt really fight on the inside , and as great as sweatpea was he lacked power.

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    I hate to say it but SRL at his peak which was relatively a short span of time.
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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

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    Lennox couldnt really fight on the inside , and as great as sweatpea was he lacked power.
    Pernell Whitaker had more power than you think, the reason he didn't have a higher KO precentage. Is because he was mostly on the backfoot concentrating on defense, but when he needed to come forward and exchange he could.

    I mean he was able to stun JCC a few times, he also badly hurt Felix Trinidad. And he KO'ed Disobelys Hurtado in one of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen. Im not saying he was a puncher because he clearly wasn't, but i do think his power was underrated.

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    for me it's got to be sugar ray leonard followed by a lightweight sugar shane mosley. i never saw sugar ray robinson fight but i'm guessing he was something of a complete fighter too!

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Hopkins deserves a mention imo.

    Hopkins in his prime could fight on the backfoot or coming forward, on the inside and on the ropes. Hopkins was effective at any punching range.

    He had a solid jab when he used it, quick sneaky right hand, he could punch to the body and was good at putting punches together. His footwork and defense is some of the best i have seen ever.

    Hopkins also had good power which was an underated part of his game, his handspeed was always underated also, his stamina was top notch and he could take a good punch when he had to.

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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Hopkins deserves a mention imo.

    Hopkins in his prime could fight on the backfoot or coming forward, on the inside and on the ropes. Hopkins was effective at any punching range.

    He had a solid jab when he used it, quick sneaky right hand, he could punch to the body and was good at putting punches together. His footwork and defense is some of the best i have seen ever.

    Hopkins also had good power which was an underated part of his game, his handspeed was always underated also, his stamina was top notch and he could take a good punch when he had to.
    Yeah to be able to do it all for 20 years and never really be athletically gifted, never really blessed in the speed or power department and stay virtually unscathed is unbelievable!

    I think Bernard Hopkins is one of those guys who i rate more as time goes by
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    Default Re: Who comes close to being a "perfect fighter?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    Hopkins deserves a mention imo.

    Hopkins in his prime could fight on the backfoot or coming forward, on the inside and on the ropes. Hopkins was effective at any punching range.

    He had a solid jab when he used it, quick sneaky right hand, he could punch to the body and was good at putting punches together. His footwork and defense is some of the best i have seen ever.

    Hopkins also had good power which was an underated part of his game, his handspeed was always underated also, his stamina was top notch and he could take a good punch when he had to.
    Yeah to be able to do it all for 20 years and never really be athletically gifted, never really blessed in the speed or power department and stay virtually unscathed is unbelievable!

    I think Bernard Hopkins is one of those guys who i rate more as time goes by
    Hopkins is one of my all time favorites. I even placed my bet with him against Pavlik who was supposed to KO him. And boy, I was not wrong!

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