mines would be tyson or hagler a just love watching the 2 of them fight
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mines would be tyson or hagler a just love watching the 2 of them fight
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Stanley Ketchel, the Julian Jackson of his era.
Jack Sharkey who fought two greats Joe Louis and Dempsey.
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Good post Lyle ...... its tough rating these guys as the sport was so very different then. The fighters fought under different rules, with less specialist training, very regularly indeed.
Your list is a good one ....... I have always been fascinated by Stanley Ketchell but there were some fabulously skilled guys around then .... Joe Jeanette, Harry Greb, Tom Cribb, Gunboat Smith, Harry Mendoza, James Figg and as you say, the incomparable Sam Langford.
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If anyone thinks that its only in modern times that fighters have been touched by tradegy .... check out the life story of the great great Tom Molyneoux (apologies for the spelling)
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Battling Siki seems a character, more eccentric than Eubanks with a tragic death.
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I read that according to James Toney, Siki was one of the fighters that Bill Miller had him study.
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Jack Dempsey. I simply love the way this guy fight's. The bell rings he works from beginning to end without stopping.
One that always interested me was Jersey Joe Walcott but hew didn't fight until 1930.
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Dempsey looks a mean MF!
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I for sure thought Andre would have mentioned Sydney's own Young Griffo (Albert Griffiths). He was quite a fellow indeed, he hated training, he loved drinking, and rumor has it he used to go into a bar much like his Heavyweight counterpart John L. Sullivan and challenge anyone in the house....only what Griffo did instead of beating the crap out of some poor working class guy and taking his money to buy booze like a common bully is he'd unfold his hankerchief, lay it on the floor and say "Any man what can knock me off this kerchief I'll buy a drink for, and anyone that can't buys a drink for me!"
Last edited by El Kabong; 07-19-2009 at 04:19 PM.
Here's some film of Siki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP69CPRwFjA
Sam Langford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2jtZ31rOlQ
Stanley Ketchel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzAitWvgkNE
Joe Gans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML5WLvrc0P8
Kid Chocolate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEh3IBo_RIg
Hope you guys can get past the fact that those aren't the greatest quality, but still interesting.
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Thanks for that last post Lyle. I haven't seen that Kid Chocolate fight until you posted it. Beautiful.
Edit: By the way, I was just looking up how much punches Joe Gans and Battling Nelson threw a round and found this article from cox's corner: Busting The Modern Myth!
The rest of the figures are fascinating as well, such as Sam Langford having more KO's than Tyson and Foreman combined.
Last edited by Chris Nagel; 07-19-2009 at 08:02 PM.
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Jimmy Wilde and alot of the others already mentioned as well.
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