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    On his day, Tommy Hearns had everything. When it wasn't he saw arena lights!

    My man Hagler looks perfect in the record book, as well as in some of his more famous fights.

    Shane Mosely is as close to perfect, on occasion, as I think I've seen recently.

    Roy in his prime was impressive.

    There is no perfect fighter, only great fighters who have perfect nights!

    BTW I am drunkly watching Mosely/Margarito for the umpteenth time! Can't get enough!
    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?
    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.

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    Roy Jones
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    SANCHEZ HAD PULLED AHEAD OF NELSON PRIOR TO THE STOPPAGE. Tony Castellano 135-131 | judge: Al Reid 132-133 | judge: Artie Aidala 134-131

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    But Lopez, Sanchez and Jofre probably sustained "close to perfection" longer than most, don't you think?
    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

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    As much as i love Salvador Sanchez, i don't think he sustained perfection. He had struggles against Patrick Ford, Pat Cowdell, and he was arguably losing to a novice Azumah Nelson, who fought a very good fight. But obviously wasn't in his peak, but neither was Salvador Sanchez IMO.

    Salvador Sanchez is great but he hadn't reached his peak yet, so he obviously was not the perfect fighter yet. Ricardo Lopez i agree on he had it all. Eder Jofre haven't seen alot of so i can't comment.

    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

    EEragh!!

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    I don't think there was ever such a thing as a "novice Nelson" given his great amature career

    Back in 1982, a tough fighter out of Zambia named Charm “Shuffle” Chiteule, who did much of his work in Germany and the U.K., fought a Ghanaian by the name of Azumah Nelson. At stake was the prestigious African Featherweight Title which Nelson had won in 1981 by knocking out AustralianBrian Roberts in the fifth stanza in Accra, Ghana.

    This fight was held at the Woodlands Stadium in Lusaka, Zambia. Nelson was 11-0 while the slick “Shuffle,” who became the number one contender to the Commonwealth title, came in at 19-1. Chiteule had won the Zambian Featherweight Title in 1979 while Nelson had taken the Ghanaian featherweight title in 1980. Nelson knocked out Chiteule in the tenth round and in so doing was able to get a shot at the world title just five months later. Still, only aficionados knew who he was and that his amateur record (50-1) was an outstanding one.
    A great amateur career doesn't prepare you, for a fighter like Salvador Sanchez. I love Salvador Sanchez but the fact is Azumah Nelson was still learning, plus he only had 2 weeks to prepare. A rematch would of been something else, because Salvador Sanchez would have improved by that time aswell.

    EEragh!!
    LOL relax old man i respect your opinion, and i love Salvador Sanchez. But i disagree with you slightly.

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