Pac agrees to 145 lbs!!!

[kingfrnk]

Pac will win im sure of it. I want Cotto to win cause im a bigger fan of his and not really a fan of Pac. But Pac will stop Cotto, hope im wrong but i doubt it.

[KananKrus]

For sure I am not comparing Cotto to Fahsang Pirang (3k battery) with that Pac vs Pirang vid provided, at all. I was simply responding to the casual pronouncements made...

Since when was Pacquiao known to have the left uppercut as a weapon in the ring?

The video if referenced, addresses the inquiree accordingly and positively as well.

It is a disservice to us all here at Saddo, to ignore a falsehood to go on unrectified, especially if addressing it is easily achieved. To indirectly enhance the level of truth to our posts should be a prime objective to us all here at Saddo Boxing. For that matter, the truth is prime to anyone worth his salt!


Noteworthy about this fact (the left uppercut), is that nuthuggers... duh! would know, fans would know, and any knowledegable boxing people would definitely know provided with some accurate leeways.

And for "those who do not know", they will however, not put in writing any undermining facts to an entity in general that is unbeknownst to them.

It is the hater that will... put in writing, with the hopes that all others "who do not know" would not seek facts, will not be objective enough, and simply take his' inaccurate pronouncements or writings as facts.

Unforgivingly then, the hater's prime objective of spreading lies, confusion, and negative connotations, will have been met.

[ElTerribleMorales]

For sure I am not comparing Cotto to Fahsang Pirang (3k battery) with that Pac vs Pirang vid provided, at all. I was simply responding to the casual pronouncements made...

Since when was Pacquiao known to have the left uppercut as a weapon in the ring?

The video if referenced, addresses the inquiree accordingly and positively as well.

It is a disservice to us all here at Saddo, to ignore a falsehood to go on unrectified, especially if addressing it is easily achieved. To indirectly enhance the level of truth to our posts should be a prime objective to us all here at Saddo Boxing. For that matter, the truth is prime to anyone worth his salt!


Noteworthy about this fact (the left uppercut), is that nuthuggers... duh! would know, fans would know, and any knowledegable boxing people would definitely know provided with some accurate leeways.

And for "those who do not know", they will however, not put in writing any undermining facts to an entity in general that is unbeknownst to them.

It is the hater that will... put in writing, with the hopes that all others "who do not know" would not seek facts, will not be objective enough, and simply take his' inaccurate pronouncements or writings as facts.

Unforgivingly then, the hater's prime objective of spreading lies, confusion, and negative connotations, will have been met.

well just cause he used it well in ONE fight doesn't really make it one of his weapons, Oscar used his right hand well against Mayorga and Vargas, does that mean you really needed to watch out for his right hand, no, not really

[Rican]

Damn! at fight night Pacquiao will only weigh 148-149 lbs. That's the highest weight Pacquiao can make. While Cotto can go up in weigh at fight night at 160 -170lbs. That's 10 to 20 lbs different.

Cotto have the advantage at weight

and

Pacquiao have the advantage on speed

I have been following Cotto's career from the beginning and I have never seen him come in on fight night weighing more than 157 pounds. Cotto is a big junior welterweight and an average-above average sized welterweight. At 145, Cotto will be fast enough for and still bigger than Manny. If Cotto weighs between 160-170 on fight night, then he will be a sitting duck for Manny.

[Rican]

What, hes sending his silk adorned emissaries now lol.Think Arum will kiss his ring when he receives him

I think Manny will cause many cuts.I just dont like Cottos bad habit of backing to the ropes.Enough math tutorials and calculating fractions.Just box.Going with Pacquiao.

I do not like when Cotto goes against the ropes either, but it only happens against physically big welterweights who pressure Cotto (Mosley, Plasterito,Clottey). Manny is not as big as those three and isn't a "pressure" fighter. This is the main reason why I give Cotto the edge. In my opinion, it could get ugly for Manny.

[Rican]

I don't see Pac disposing Cotto ala Hatton style. It's more like David Diaz style where Cotto MIGHT get cut severely in the eyebrows and bumps below the eyes. Speed will difinitely play a big part. Pac just gotta watch out for Cotto's lethal jab cuz it's very unpredictable. Roach must focus on that.

Cotto has never been cut in the face/eyebrows with a punch. All of the cuts he has had (Urkal, Mosley, Judah, Clottey) have been the results of headbutts. He did have a bleeding lip/mouth against Judah. Manny cuts easier in the eyebrows than Cotto IMO. If there are no headbutts, I believe Manny's face will be the worse for wear.

[match]

Going with Manny on this one. He's just firing on all cylinders right now.

[knodaledge]

This will be a good entertaining fight. I just really hope Pacquiao wins so it doesn't ruin the match everyone wants to see.

Arum is taking a huge risk here but he just cares about keeping all the money to himself before making the big move. Mayweather/Pacquiao will outsell Mayweather/Cotto, but Cotto could definately throw a wrench into that match up.

[CFH]

This will be a good entertaining fight. I just really hope Pacquiao wins so it doesn't ruin the match everyone wants to see.

Arum is taking a huge risk here but he just cares about keeping all the money to himself before making the big move. Mayweather/Pacquiao will outsell Mayweather/Cotto, but Cotto could definately throw a wrench into that match up.

If Cotto beats Pacquiao impressively, I'd be just as excited to see PBF - Cotto as I currently am to see PBF - Pac. It won't happen though, Cotto is going to get mauled.

[knodaledge]

This will be a good entertaining fight. I just really hope Pacquiao wins so it doesn't ruin the match everyone wants to see.

Arum is taking a huge risk here but he just cares about keeping all the money to himself before making the big move. Mayweather/Pacquiao will outsell Mayweather/Cotto, but Cotto could definately throw a wrench into that match up.

If Cotto beats Pacquiao impressively, I'd be just as excited to see PBF - Cotto as I currently am to see PBF - Pac. It won't happen though, Cotto is going to get mauled.

Yeah. Pac's chances of winning are far greater. I hope he wins too. This fight will be a good watch, definate fireworks. 2nd best fight to be made.

[C-Lo]

C-Lo, the weight drain thing was brought up by the boxing media, with Ring Magazine the first to make an issue of it & actually being up close at the weigh in, Hatton DID look like he'd struggled making the weight.

But, IF he struggled that is entirely HIS fault. Pacquiao didn't drain him down to a catchweight, it was at the weight where he was supposedly unbeatable & with his Pub Drunk style of fighting, I think Pac knocks him out whatever the weight.

OK, I'll admit I'm wrong then. I honestly did not read anything about Hatton being weight drained as a factor. If it's out there, then I missed it.

Bulldog, my fault! Have some rep on me.

[Pavlik]

Miguel Cotto, Manny Pacquiao agree to November showdown - ESPN

A deal has been completed for boxing's biggest fight of the fall: a showdown between pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao and welterweight titleholder Miguel Cotto.


Pacquiao and Cotto, two of boxing's most popular and crowd-pleasing fighters, will meet at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Nov. 14 (HBO PPV), Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.


"It's done," said Arum, who was back at work in his Las Vegas office after a vacation in London and Italy and attending a wedding in Israel. "While I was away I reached a verbal agreement with each side. Pacquiao committed to the fight this weekend and Cotto the week before while I was in Israel. I was on the phone all the time trying to get this done."


Arum said his attorney, Michael Heitner, was preparing the documents for signatures.


"But everything is agreed or I wouldn't say what I am saying," Arum said. "The weight, the percentages, the guarantees -- it's all agreed to."


Although the percentage split was not disclosed, Pacquiao (49-3-2, 37 KOs) will receive more than 50 percent of the money. That was never a serious sticking point, however. The key holdup had been the contract weight.


Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs), a titleholder at 147 pounds, had agreed to drop below the welterweight limit for the fight. Pacquiao, the 140-pound junior welterweight champion, wanted him to come all the way down to 143 pounds. Cotto refused. Ultimately, they agreed on a 145-pound maximum weight.


Pacquiao, 30, the national hero of the Philippines, scored a sensational knockout of Ricky Hatton to win the junior welterweight title on May 2 at the MGM Grand. The victory gave Pacquiao a world championship in a record-tying sixth weight division.


Cotto


Pacquiao




Cotto, 28, of Puerto Rico, is coming off a bloody split decision victory in a title defense against Joshua Clottey on June 13 at New York's Madison Square Garden.

Given their penchant for all-action brawls, Arum said he had high expectations that Cotto and Pacquiao would produce another memorable fight.


"I'm really excited because it's a real fight. These are two real warriors," Arum said. "Whichever way this fight goes, I think it's going to be a classic because of the way these guys fight. There will be a lot of engagement. They're great fighters. Cotto and Pacquiao are gutty guys. If you want blood and action and excitement, this is the fight."


Arum said tickets would go on sale in late August followed by a three-city press tour.


"I want to get it done the week after Labor Day so I don't interfere with the Floyd Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez fight," he said. "I don't want [Golden Boy Promotions] saying I jumped them."


Arum said the tentative tour schedule would be Sept. 9 in Los Angeles, Sept. 10 in New York and Sept. 12 in San Juan, Puerto Rico.


"Pacquiao and Cotto are both very pumped up for the fight," he said.


Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.

[C-Lo]

What, hes sending his silk adorned emissaries now lol.Think Arum will kiss his ring when he receives him

I think Manny will cause many cuts.I just dont like Cottos bad habit of backing to the ropes.Enough math tutorials and calculating fractions.Just box.Going with Pacquiao.

I do not like when Cotto goes against the ropes either, but it only happens against physically big welterweights who pressure Cotto (Mosley, Plasterito,Clottey). Manny is not as big as those three and isn't a "pressure" fighter. This is the main reason why I give Cotto the edge. In my opinion, it could get ugly for Manny.

I agree with this. I don't think Cotto is going to sit on the ropes cause that's exactly where Pac would want him to be. I see Cotto imposing his strength and try to back Manny up. But I also wouldn't be surprised to see him box like he did against Mosley. Cotto has more than one trick up his sleeve which makes it difficult for me as a Pacquiao fan.

This is going to be a good one!

[ElTerribleMorales]

What, hes sending his silk adorned emissaries now lol.Think Arum will kiss his ring when he receives him

I think Manny will cause many cuts.I just dont like Cottos bad habit of backing to the ropes.Enough math tutorials and calculating fractions.Just box.Going with Pacquiao.

I do not like when Cotto goes against the ropes either, but it only happens against physically big welterweights who pressure Cotto (Mosley, Plasterito,Clottey). Manny is not as big as those three and isn't a "pressure" fighter. This is the main reason why I give Cotto the edge. In my opinion, it could get ugly for Manny.

I agree with this. I don't think Cotto is going to sit on the ropes cause that's exactly where Pac would want him to be. I see Cotto imposing his strength and try to back Manny up. But I also wouldn't be surprised to see him box like he did against Mosley. Cotto has more than one trick up his sleeve which makes it difficult for me as a Pacquiao fan.

This is going to be a good one!

yea, how some people are trying to compare it to the Hatton fight is ridiculous, i think it's going to be a good tough fight for BOTH fighters

[Kev]

C-Lo, the weight drain thing was brought up by the boxing media, with Ring Magazine the first to make an issue of it & actually being up close at the weigh in, Hatton DID look like he'd struggled making the weight.

But, IF he struggled that is entirely HIS fault. Pacquiao didn't drain him down to a catchweight, it was at the weight where he was supposedly unbeatable & with his Pub Drunk style of fighting, I think Pac knocks him out whatever the weight.

OK, I'll admit I'm wrong then. I honestly did not read anything about Hatton being weight drained as a factor. If it's out there, then I missed it.

Bulldog, my fault! Have some rep on me.

C-Lo what are you doing man, you should never admit you're wrong on an online foum that's basic! You just dig your heels in starting arguing MORE LOUDLY and if that fails you then resort to personal insults and annoying smilies like these

Just never use the soapbox one, that's mine