Is James Toney Really Finished ?

ICB · 07-21-2009 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Spicoli

You have to be an eternal optimist but love the spirit.

Been a fan for the longest but si....the man is done on the elite level.Mentally and more so physically.He has always been on a roller coaster and at times his own worst enemy...just doing enough to get by and at other times looking as if he could walk into any boxing ring in any era over history and look like he was at home.He can beat all of the one dimensional plodders but wont do much more I believe.Any one specific in mind?

I think a fight with Oleg Maskaev, would be a good style match up for him.

**JazMerkin** · 07-21-2009 01:02 AM

He's finished as a serious fighter. It's amazing that I can look at his excellent career & think what a waste of the talent it was. Fat bastard.

**OumaFan** · 07-21-2009 01:17 AM

yes and I've thought so for a while. This isn't a crack at you necessarily Ice but how many times have fans of fighters gone "I think he's got one more great performance left" when that guy doesn't have that one great fight left. See Tyson. See Roy Jones. Etc.

**Spicoli** · 07-21-2009 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by ICB

Originally Posted by Spicoli

You have to be an eternal optimist but love the spirit.

Been a fan for the longest but si....the man is done on the elite level.Mentally and more so physically.He has always been on a roller coaster and at times his own worst enemy...just doing enough to get by and at other times looking as if he could walk into any boxing ring in any era over history and look like he was at home.He can beat all of the one dimensional plodders but wont do much more I believe.Any one specific in mind?

I think a fight with Oleg Maskaev, would be a good style match up for him.

Could be.Oleg is an odd one.I thought that he was the type Haye should have looked into for early Hvy exposure...title ties,athreat and feet of stone but hitable & chinny.But ultimatly for Toney...what does it get him?Toney not exactly elusive now.

**Gandalf** · 07-21-2009 02:51 AM

I think Toney is done now. He's been pretty inactive since Peter beat him quite easily in that second fight. What with him being in his 40's and showing no sign of fighting since Oquendo I think it's best that he just let's it be now.

There is nothing more he can prove at his age.

**SweetPea** · 07-21-2009 03:23 AM

Yes, Toney is finished.

Given how smart he is and how great his chin is, he could probably still survive thru 12 rounds with a top guy, but he can't actually beat one at this point.

He should call it quits.

**LEGION** · 07-21-2009 04:20 AM

Well we can all agree he's not finished eating yet.

**SweetPea** · 07-21-2009 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by LEGION

Well we can all agree he's not finished eating yet.

Correct. He hasn't even reached his prime yet in that regard.

**Nameless** · 07-21-2009 04:26 PM

That guy was genuinely extremely talented but the pod he grew up got weary on him and he obviously lost a few fights because of it and reduced considerably his durability.. Personally, i think he could have had the potential to be a kind of B-Hop durability and talent talking but... down the drain. Or the stomach shall I say.