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Really? Mind numbing revelation.
If you mean they are White because they aren't from African descent than ok, I concede your point. If you want to play semantics then fine, but please explain your definition of White.
I'm sure if you told the Gracie's they were white they would beg to differ; and would say they are Portugese, Spanish and indiginous South American Indian in descent, with a little Scottish about 200 years back in the pedigree. If the Gracie's are "white" than you might as well say Mexicans are "whitey's" as well with the different blood flowing in them. Floyd said himself Mexicans are at the top of the food chain in boxing, so by your logic they are white which in effect makes Floyd's argument that white people can't fight not only racist but borderline retarded.
Either way we both know what Floyd was talking about; good ole' fashioned whitebread from the US. And to be fair to Floyd, he's probably just trying to repeat what Lou DiBella always says about MMA but manages to sound even more pathetic than Lou does.
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Since we're talking about white boxers. Would Kostya Tsyzu be considered white or what?
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The Gracies aren't white, but there are plenty of white people in Brazil which I think was his point. I really don't see this comment as racist, I mean if I took everytime someone slightly generalized black people as racist, I would be one of those dicks seeing racism everywhere.
As to your earlier point about Hopkins, I agree with Bilbo, I see it more as a promotional tool, similarly with Alan Minter's comment before the Hagler fight. I think those are people trying to promote what on the surface aren't particularly interesting fights, the only problem being that Minter's comment drew large sections of the far right to his support, who promptly tried to destroy Wembley Arena, when Hagler battered him.
There's a vast difference between a stupid comment & a racist one (I do agree they sometimes go hand in hand. An example, Bill O'Reilly frequently makes generalized comments about black people, but I don't consider him a racist because of them as I think they're born out of ignorance. Just makes him a complete dick IMO
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Yes Jaz I understood his point; I know there are whites in Brazil. Him saying Brazilians came from Brazil made me laugh though because it's just so glaringly obvious. He said the Gracies were white though; I was just interested in what his definition of white is. You know this is becoming tiring.
I was going to say something about the Hopkins thing but I'm done with this. All I know is double standards are funny as fukk; and that statement isn't pointed at you Jaz. I appreciate the conversation my man.
Last edited by LEGION; 07-21-2009 at 06:15 PM.
Lol, Piss off !!! I was just stating the obvious as I felt what I was quoting was a fairly bizarre/vague question.
If the Gracies do have some South American Indian blood in them then they arent really 100% white and I would consider them mixed race. Although the indigenous people of Scotland, Spain and Portugal are white.
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