Looks like Haye Vitali is off and its Haye v Valuev

[kingfrnk]

i think now you can pretty much say its a fact that Haye is scared of the Klitschos

[The "Ring" Master]

i think now you can pretty much say its a fact that Haye is scared of the Klitschos

how can you say that , david haye chased them pretty much straight away as soon as he moved up to HW, the problem is that the klitchsko brothers are a national treasure and the german goverment want them to reign as champs for as long as the social veiwing is making them money, look at the franchise for christ sake!!! david just wants a title shot thats a simple as it get wheather its for the WBC IBF IBO or the WBA or WBO he dont care, valuev isnt even a good fighter non of them are the only true fighter is vitali but he wants to keep safe and save himself the upset of another defeat to an englishman, if vitali was champ before the lewis fight he would have never fought lewis because his goverment wouldnt allow it and lewis would have had to go to germany and get cheated if it went to points, fair enough david haye is a money man and if the doe aint good enough then he aint gonna fight, ok ill give that one! but let me assure you of one thing brother if the fight had been made for either wvlad or vitali david hatye would destroy them no questions about it, he is too fast for them, he would counter their jab the only thing they have and spark them out, personally i would like to see them throw a super six fight in the hw division like they are doing with the super mw, then we would see who is the man at hw right now.

[ono]

i think now you can pretty much say its a fact that Haye is scared of the Klitschos

It's probably more down to the fact he doesn't want to be tied into a contract where he practically has to fight them until they beat him. Little does he know, it would only be a one fight contract anyway if he was to fight Vitali first.

[JT Rock]

Exactly why would Haye want to be tied into a round robin with the Klits.

Sure haye has a big mouth and is an easy target, but if Arreola or any other Heavy was given those conditions, everyone would get sour toward the klits

[HattonTheHammer]

Exactly why would Haye want to be tied into a round robin with the Klits.

Sure haye has a big mouth and is an easy target, but if Arreola or any other Heavy was given those conditions, everyone would get sour toward the klits

But the likes of arreola/chambers etc havent spent the last 18months claiming how they`d knock both guys spark out given the opportunity.

Im all for someone mouthing off if they are indeed genuinely confident and ready to fight the person they are spouting off about. If however they pussy foot around both guys like haye has done you have to take them with a grain of salt.

[JT Rock]

Exactly why would Haye want to be tied into a round robin with the Klits.

Sure haye has a big mouth and is an easy target, but if Arreola or any other Heavy was given those conditions, everyone would get sour toward the klits

But the likes of arreola/chambers etc havent spent the last 18months claiming how they`d knock both guys spark out given the opportunity.

Im all for someone mouthing off if they are indeed genuinely confident and ready to fight the person they are spouting off about. If however they pussy foot around both guys like haye has done you have to take them with a grain of salt.

Obviously this is mutilayered with a ton of hair on it. Haye is a pain in the ass with a loudmouth, but I love what he brings to the table he is a great talent and showman. problem is he will have not fought for 10 months, and while I enjoy him as a prize fighter, with him not fighting he is just another mouthy prick who should be smased in the face with a coal shovel.

So I can see how his detractors want him in an electric chair when even his stanchest supporters are growing weary, but the Setanta and back debacle was a unique circumstance and as far as Vitali goes he is the best brother of the 2 and was the lineal Heavy before his brother backed into the title. Vitali is 2x as tough as Wlad with an iron chin and terminator type will. I'm sure when everyone looked at the proposed deal and weighed it out, ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze at this point.

Haye will beat Valuev and then will have a strap to bring to the party and we'll at best close the gap in the contract stipulations with the Klits, besides Valuev is a puss who wouldnt fight my mother and has been harboring a title he has been gifted a few times already, be nice to see David lighten Niks waist a little and put that title in the real mix

[HattonTheHammer]

Exactly why would Haye want to be tied into a round robin with the Klits.

Sure haye has a big mouth and is an easy target, but if Arreola or any other Heavy was given those conditions, everyone would get sour toward the klits

But the likes of arreola/chambers etc havent spent the last 18months claiming how they`d knock both guys spark out given the opportunity.

Im all for someone mouthing off if they are indeed genuinely confident and ready to fight the person they are spouting off about. If however they pussy foot around both guys like haye has done you have to take them with a grain of salt.

Obviously this is mutilayered with a ton of hair on it. Haye is a pain in the ass with a loudmouth, but I love what he brings to the table he is a great talent and showman. problem is he will have not fought for 10 months, and while I enjoy him as a prize fighter, with him not fighting he is just another mouthy prick who should be smased in the face with a coal shovel.

So I can see how his detractors want him in an electric chair when even his stanchest supporters are growing weary, but the Setanta and back debacle was a unique circumstance and as far as Vitali goes he is the best brother of the 2 and was the lineal Heavy before his brother backed into the title. Vitali is 2x as tough as Wlad with an iron chin and terminator type will. I'm sure when everyone looked at the proposed deal and weighed it out, ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze at this point.

Haye will beat Valuev and then will have a strap to bring to the party and we'll at best close the gap in the contract stipulations with the Klits, besides Valuev is a puss who wouldnt fight my mother and has been harboring a title he has been gifted a few times already, be nice to see David lighten Niks waist a little and put that title in the real mix

Come november haye would of officially had 1 fight in the last 20 months. The guy is a 30 year old man who claims he is coming towards the end of his career despite being only 20 fights in and who`s career highlight was beating enzo maccarinelli which he has fed off now for the last 2 years.

Ive no issue with david haye the person, heavyweight boxing desperately needs egos like him especially in this day and age. What f*cks me off time and time again though is that he seems to believe he is now capable of being a very unique boxer who only fights once a year ala:trinidad, hopkins etc despite the fact the man has nothing to his CV to suggest he should be doing so and most including me are quite convinced he is living off an overfed reputation that he knows full well will be fully exposed once he gets in a ring with either klitschko (especially vitali as you have pointed out already)

[rjj tszyu]

He's probably gone for more money with valuev but after all the talk i wanted to see him fight at least one klit. I think he'll give valuev hell though and have him quit on his stool ala Golota vs Tyson.